I hear "someone" is coming out with a certified MT system and I hear that another "someone" is coming out with a certified Star system.

Oh yeah, I understand that Tranzeo does their own testing and certification.

Very impressive...



Butch Evans wrote:
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Ralph wrote:

Yep, and addition to being fully FCC Part 15 certified, I plugged it in with a UL approved Power cord too :-P I don't need to justify legality to allow someone to rationalize illegality. Sorry

In that case, I'll apologize. I was not aware of any Orinoco based certified systems other than YDI's system. As for the idea of "rationalizing illegality", I think you misunderstand my intent. I get tired of this whole argument. I agree that being legal should be primary importance, but that has nothing to do with the original question. I get very tired of hearing the answer to every Mikrotik question with "it's not certified". While true, it is not helpful in answering the questions people pose.

As well known as you are to Mikrotik Butch (even I was about to hire you for some MT Router work), why don't you encourage MT to make some certified designs?

I have done this. I can tell you (and others) that Mikrotik DOES hear the cries for certified gear and I can suggest that you (and others) keep watching to see what comes. I cannot say more than that.

WISPA's wish for a do it yourself palette of devices to cobble together and be certified is a pipe dream. The FCC doesn't work like that. If they did, then Kenwood, Icom, Motorola, and the others would already have do-it-yourself commercial radio kits. And you'd be able to go to Radio Shack and buy a kit to build a microwave oven project.

You are making ridiculous comparisons. A system that conforms to the standards that have been dictated, comprised of components that have been certified to behave in a certain way, is a FAR cry from a "build a microwave oven project". I understand that statement may have been a bit toungue in cheek, but the point is that we are not asking for the freedom to just put together whatever we want in any combination with wreckless abandon. What we want to do is:

1. Use components with known, certified behaviour
2. Put these components together into a system
3. Stay within the EIRP and other parameters as outlined in the Part-15 rules.

I don't think this is very different from what the computer people are doing now, since I know I have a laptop with a wireless card, and there is no separate Part-15 certification for my laptop. There is a sticker that says "Tested to comply with Part-15 standards for home or office use". While I have to agree that this is not the same as me putting a radio on a tower, the principle IS the same, so long as I "comply with Part-15 standards for outdoor point to multipoint radio systems". I understand this is not currently the law, I don't agree that this is a "pipe dream". I think there is certainly a possible solution to this desire.


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