In my area, there are a lot of people who have phones with external antenna connectors.  A lot of them have a 8-13db yagi outside, mounted high, with a cable run and pigtail to connect to their phone. 

Verzion and Centennial, while not exactly happy about it, do provide the needed info to get it working.  Else the user will quit...



Ty Carter <Lightwave Communications> wrote:
Glad I could help...

I'm not saying you can't do it with some other solution (unlicensed) but
you best be prepared for the consequences if the cell provider gets wind
of...They have spent millions of dollars in their infrastructure and
don't think for one minute they would not haul your company to court
over something like that.

As a matter a fact; when I was doing my first authorized deployment with
Spotwave; we had a conference call with US Cellular and even though
Spotwave was an authorized system on the US Cellular network; the
engineers would not give us coordinates or even identify the location of
the tower we were trying to repeat... They claimed it was "proprietary"
and a trade secret... and gave us NO assistance with anything.  They
also told us if they had one complaint about this equipment causing a
problem; they would come shut it down.

We had to give them contacts for the building where the equipment was.


Ty Carter




 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:08 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

Oh for the love of Pete! This list _was_ getting useful..

Please subtract 9 billion mod points for the Troll please and send him
back
to Slashdot or NANOG, his natural environment.

Ty, thanks for the quick answer. Things like that make this list
_usefull_
and _relevant_ to my work.

ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Ralph
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 9:05 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

Amen!
But remember the rules don't bother a lot of people on this list. They
were
written for all the OTHER people.

Ralph


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Ty Carter <Lightwave Communications>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.


Thanks Blake.. That is what I was dancing round in my post... there are
homegrown yagi from ~$400 but that will not fly on the legal front...

Please be aware there are legal implications for unauthorized repeating
or
broadcasting of a cell providers frequency.

And to address Ryans question; NO, you can not.

1.  You are not authorized to proxy on behalf of
2.  You don't own the freq.
3.  You don't have the subscriber

Shall I go on...

Ty Carter

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Blake Bowers
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 11:23 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
Cc: Jack Daniel
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.

Be prepared...

In order to do it legally, there are some hoops to jump through.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

is an excellent source for the particulars on the technical
AND legal side of this.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scottie Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:15 AM
Subject: [WISPA] OT: Cell Phone Repeaters.


  
Have any of you guys installed cell phone repeaters for places before?
    
I 
  
have a boat dock that needs Verizon cell phone service repeated but
    
have 
  
no clue to really go about doing it. We have spoke to Wilson Antenna
    
and 
  
they say we need at least a -80dB or so on our handheld cell phone to
    
be 
  
able to repeat it. Just wondering if anyone else has done this before
    
and 
  
what kind of results they have had? TIA.

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