The info in this post about being paid for this service is important to us smaller WISPs. This means that we CAN invest some small amount in equipment, just as we would deploy an AP to gain customers. Then, over time, we charge for the intercepts we receive and eventually can recover the expense.
We can look at this as a marketable service to law enforcement. Thinking on the extreme hillarious side of it, we can even make our LEAs aware that we HAVE this capability. Message to all LEAs: "We are here and ready, so think of using this method of law enforcement more often than not. Send us your subpoenas...we are not afraid...along with your billing address, of course." ;) PEOPLE THIS IS MEANT TO BE FUNNY, OK???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mark Nash UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998-5555 541-998-5599 fax ----- Original Message ----- From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 8:32 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] CALEA > On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Jeff Broadwick wrote: > > >1. The ISP will know a actual intercept subpoena is coming before > >they receive it. > > Actually, in a couple of cases, this was true. In the others, the > subpoena came without any notice. > > >3. The LEA would like the ISP to have all the CALEA "I's" dotted > >and "T's" crossed, but are willing to work with a cooperative > >provider. > > This is the main point of the post I made. They are willing to work > with us, because we have something they need. > > >Can you verify that they ISPs got their direct expenses back from > >the LEAs? That would be valuable information to have! > > I do know in one case, the ISP did get paid. He only billed the LEA > for my fees, plus some other small expense, though I don't recall > what it was for. If I recall correctly, the total bill was about > $800. > > I was told by a law enforcement agent that Verizon charges something > like $1250 + some amount per day for each tap. I don't recall the > actual fees, but it was close to that amount. > > >I DO believe that the LEAs will become more technically aware over > >time. I also believe that they will be less forgiving of providers > >who do not have a CALEA plan over time. > > This is still new to both law enforcement and WISPs. I agree that > over time, those that are not capable of providing the information > will begin to see themselves in trouble. > > -- > Butch Evans > Network Engineering and Security Consulting > 573-276-2879 > http://www.butchevans.com/ > My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 > Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf > Mikrotik Certified Consultant > http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
