They later corrected me that it does 23 mbit throughput max...  the 15 was a 
"real world" example with clients of varying signal strengths and 
modulations.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jeffrey thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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<wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:13 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks 
ToRollout New WiMAX Service)


> and actually Aperto has 21 mb throughput on a 7mhz channel
>
>
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, "Mike Hammett"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)?
>>
>> If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to
>> other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit
>> throughput.
>>
>> I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's
>> AN-80
>> is the only high quality product that actually has throughput
>> capabilities.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks
>> ToRollout New WiMAX Service)
>>
>>
>> > IIRC,
>> >
>> > 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5
>> > Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10
>> > Watts EIRP ...
>> >
>> >
>> > Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why
>> >
>> > Airspan certification does get really close to it
>> >
>> > Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db)
>> >
>> > Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels
>> >
>> >
>> > Gino A. Villarini
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> > Behalf Of Matt Liotta
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To
>> > Rollout New WiMAX Service)
>> >
>> > As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I
>> > switch the subject line to match the tread.
>> >
>> > Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment.
>> > However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear
>> > certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this
>> > reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural
>> > markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural
>> > market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did.
>> > Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified 
>> > for
>> >
>> > 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not 
>> > able
>> >
>> > to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout
>> > process.
>> >
>> > I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the
>> > FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity
>> > for operators to provide services using 3.65.
>> >
>> > -Matt
>> >
>> > Mike Hammett wrote:
>> >> The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC
>> >> limitations.
>> >>
>> >> My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear
>> > can do
>> >> coupled with the documents filed with the FCC for their certification.
>> >>
>> >> The most I could get out of a PtP link was about 7 miles.  With a 90*
>> >> sector, only about 5 miles.
>> >>
>> >> I agree that all else the same 3.65 is better than 5.x GHz, only it
>> > isn't
>> >> because the power isn't there.
>> >>
>> >> The throughput isn't there for WiMax compliant equipment due to small
>> >> channels.  If there were larger channel sizes, yes, it would support
>> > higher
>> >> throughput applications.  According to Redline, 7.5 MHz only gets
>> > about 15
>> >> megs of throughput with WiMax.
>> >>
>> >> Redline explicitly said 3.65 GHz isn't for rural applications due to
>> > the
>> >> power.
>> >
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