This is an area that MT has shown considerable interest in as well as have several "GOOD" hardware products out there. The 1000 is going to be a contender. Not as expandable, but with the price vs performance, don't think you can go wrong. A non MT based product is the PoweRouter 732. There are treads on MTs forums that list 2600 PPPoE sessions with one of the processor cores on, moving 30 meg of traffic with power to spare.
Plus both of these are industrial platforms designed to compete with Cisco. The 732 has a MTBF of 100,000+ hours. And I bet the 1000 is about the same. There are hundreds of WISPs across the world that run MT as their cores right now. I think in the next year or two there will be some serious contenders with MT based systems that will rival many well established companies, yes like Cisco, and get a decent market share. The way I see it, the 732, can replace a 20k Cisco for 7% of the price. But as you said, lets not get started on a "yours is better than mine" war. Not the point of the conversation. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Ricker Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions? I admit that I'm biased against Mikrotik. It's good for what it is, but it's value is primarily in its price / flexibility. It's not exactly...telco/carrier grade, or however you want to put it. It's fine as edge gear, but, not what I'd put in a core role like this. Perhaps in terms of getting it up and running, you may be quicker with something that you know and have a good feel for--ie intel hardware running Mikrotik. However, in terms of reliability, uptime, and scalability, (and I'd assume configuration options) Redback is the way to go. If you want something that is a little more flexible, go Cisco (but, you'd pay more for comparable performance). Price wise, Redback's are very attractive and very easy to get spare equipment for. Plus, you get _good_ hardware. Not "throw CPU cycles at it and keep some extra boxes in the closet for when it chokes good"; I mean "swap out failed power supplies / Ethernet cards / CPUs without any downtime" sort of good. Using PCs / Mikrotik is good when you can't get your hands on good gear at a reasonable cost. That's not the case in this situation... -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies ps...Please don't turn this into a flame war :). I realize people here love Mikrotik, and it has its purposes. However, in terms of field tested performance and reliability for PPPoE, Mikrotik is a PC based platform that has relatively few PPPoE deployments running under relatively light loads whereas Redback had a really large install base for high volume PPPoE termination and generally proved itself to be a very solid and scalable platform. On Feb 7, 2008 8:40 PM, Eric Muehleisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Redback is untouchable in terms of PPPoE aggregation. Cisco is really > the only other Router out there that is of Redback's caliber. We > currently terminate close to 15,000 subscribers using a Redback SE 400. > Attached is our current CPU usage. > > > > -Eric > > > rabbtux rabbtux wrote: > > All > > > > I'm in the process of moving over to another upstream provider. I'm > > working with them closely to get service to my county PUD system that > > uses pppoe tunnels for virtually all end user connections. ( I know > > that I can get a vlan, but the cost is prohibitive at the moment) > > > > So, I'm their first beta tester in my area and they have this used > > Redback router. First there were problems that were to be solved with > > a firmware upgrade, now they have a hardware failure without a spare. > > I'm not familiar with this router at all, but discussed it with their > > sysadmin. > > > > Apparently the need is for something that can handle 2000 sessions and > > has full 100Mbps NICs and can support that speed. I'm not a pppoe > > expert, but would a decent PC, with 4/8GB of RAM and mikrotik SW > > installed handle something like this??? Butch? or other MT experts? > > Or is this requirement way out of the MT league? > > > > For my own reasons, I want to get them going, promptly! 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