MTs BGP is completely their own code in v3...

*Dennis Burgess
Mikrotik Certified Consultant
Link Technologies, Inc
WISP/Network Support Solutions
+01 314-686-1302*



Anthony R. Mattke wrote:
> Honestly, My core is 100% ImageStream Routers. I have no problem 
> trusting them to run, day in, day out, 100%
>
> As far as Microtik goes, I'm curious about the question that got pushed 
> aside, what do they use for Dynamic routing? Quagga? Zebra? I ask 
> because from what I've heard they're violating open source licensing 
> with their MPLS implementation. I can't remember from who or where, and 
> honestly I've never touched a Microtik, but someone expressed grave 
> concern for their licensing. I personally would do more digging on that 
> before I ever bought one of their products....
>
> Just my 2p,
>
> -Tony
>
>
> Joshua Rowe wrote:
>   
>> This should maybe be a new thread, and I'm not sure Tom is making this point 
>> or not,, but I agree, would you trust your CORE to anything but Cisco? I'm 
>> not sure I would. 
>>
>> Josh 
>>
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>> ---------- Original Message -----------
>> From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:45:36 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS
>>
>>     
>>>> What does MT do that Star doesn't do in the routing arena?
>>>>         
>>> I'll add that both platforms have the same flaw.  They use 
>>> OpenSource, but then close the system. Seems kind of opposite the purpose.
>>> On a possitive note, I have to say, Mikrotik has really innovated 
>>> their platform, with a lot of their own code and solutions, to solve 
>>> problems that couldn't be solved using the previous alternative 
>>> popular open source apps usually used for those purposes.  My hats 
>>> goes off  to them.
>>>
>>> But the risk that keeps popping up is...  They aren't Cisco, in the 
>>> terms of 1000's of top tier people to research and support 
>>> development of their platform. Can we trust MT's or any small 
>>> player's proprietary code, for the long haul?  In the Open Source 
>>> world, there is a clear answer to that, make it open source, and if 
>>> the developer stops maintaining it, there is a way to get someone to 
>>> take over maintaining it, without loosing the investment into the platform.
>>>
>>> I'm not saying companies like MT and STAROS should make their 
>>> proprietary code into open source. But what I like is the ability to 
>>> ADD packages to an existing platform.
>>>
>>> I can give an example, of a monthy ago, when I installed a MT router 
>>> because , I thought the pretty GUI would make a good impression, but 
>>> then 24hours later I had to pull it because there was no way for me 
>>> to test the performance of the link remotely, easilly for my 
>>> specific situation. I needed Iperf on the router. It was a better 
>>> choice to use a standard Linux system, basic native routing, because 
>>> it also enabled Iperf.
>>>
>>> MT and STAROS are two nice products, but this discussion doesn't 
>>> stop there.
>>>
>>> For example ImageStream, even though a bit more expensive, they 
>>> provide an Open system. Their OS is maintained and preloaded with a 
>>> few bells and whistles.  But you CAN LOAD your own code ALSO.
>>>
>>> Then there is Voyeta.  Its based on 2.6 Kernal of Linux, and its 
>>> 100% open source, and give the security of using a maintained OS 
>>> (for example BGP and QUAGGA fixes). But you can pay extra for 
>>> maintenance and quicker updates.
>>>
>>> MT and STARTOS, will stay winners for high end WIFI Radio CPE and 
>>> APs. But when it comes to Core Routers, to stay competitive, they 
>>> really need to open the platform, and allow third party modules to 
>>> be loaded by owners or developers.  Sure, there is the arguement 
>>> that "CISCO DOESN"T DO  THAT", but they aren't Cisco.
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
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