All are the same platform, the differ only on the form factor and antennas

gino

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:19 PM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations

Where? I see LS2/5 and PS2/5 support but nothing for NS2/5. Searching
the forum I found:

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:38 pm from oswave
"We currently have no plans to port oswave to NS2/NS5."

And it goes on to ask why and also someone says if you order 1000 they
will (likely) do it.

I am not able to find it, can you post a link.

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The oswave website says it supports the NS platform
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 1:38 PM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations
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> Oswave says there is no NS2/5 support and will not be. DD-WRT has
> support. That is a shame since ros/sos seam not to have plans to
> support them. I wonder how much effort/money it would be to get
> Ubiquity to solicit a firmware from someone?
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Well you all have the option to flash the nanostations with oswave firmware. 
>>  The oswave has polling...
>>
>> gino
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matt Larsen - Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 3:21 AM
>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>> Matt,
>>>
>>> I agree with almost everything you said... except the polling part.
>>> Having a robust, efficient polling system is the best thing available
>>> for outdoor wireless. That is one of the main reasons we are now using
>>> Mikrotik is because of their Nstreme and polling system. We are
>>> finding now it's not the same quality as Trango's polling, but it does
>>> work.
>>>
>>> How else do you keep a single customer from taking down an entire AP
>>> with a large upload (usually from an infection, virus, worm, etc.)? I
>>> have tested this over and over and over, and every time I come back to
>>> the same conclusion... you have to have a polling system to control
>>> the upload, otherwise the customer with the best signal dominates the
>>> AP (on the upload side).
>>>
>>> Here is a very simple test... set up an AP with two connected clients
>>> without polling. Start an upload on one client and then try doing a
>>> download or even a ping from the 2nd client. My tests show the
>>> download and/or ping to be very unreliable and very sporadic. Now, if
>>> you turn polling on and do the same test, everything works fine while
>>> the upload is running and the 2nd client can't even tell there is an
>>> upload running.
>>
>> Um, bandwidth limiting?   As long as the AP has the upload speed coming
>> from the client capped to a rate slightly less than the total capacity
>> of the pipe, its not a problem.   I'm doing the test right now, and I
>> have rock solid pings, with a little bit of jitter.
>>
>>>
>>> What we really need is the Nanostation-ROS... a Nanostation running
>>> Mikrotik (even for $50 more per unit)... that would be the killer
>>> CPE... I would place an order for 500 right now today. :)
>>>
>>
>> Or Nanostation-SOS - a Nano running StarOS.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>>>> Hi Travis,
>>>>
>>>> I'm with you - the Nanostations are a pretty amazing product.   I've
>>>> been deploying Nanostations on 10mhz channels in 2.4 and 5ghz with
>>>> StarOS access points and the performance/interference resistance is
>>>> pretty amazing at ANY price point.   I could say the same thing for the
>>>> newer Tranzeo CPE units as well, but they can't match up with the
>>>> Ubiquity price point just yet.
>>>>
>>>> It is neat to see a product with many of the Canopy advantages (rich
>>>> features, small footprint, inexpensive to produce, good interference
>>>> resistance) that is compatible with the 802.11a/b/g standards and thus
>>>> able to take advantage of the very innovative Mikrotik and StarOS
>>>> platforms.
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious to see if someone comes up with a good reflector for the
>>>> Nanostation radios.  That would enable the use of the adaptive antenna
>>>> mode, and since StarOS has the ability to switch connectors on the fly -
>>>> and potentially polarity if hooked up to a dual-pol antenna - you would
>>>> end up with a standards based product that would have nearly every
>>>> feature that the Trangos had that made them special (noise threshold at
>>>> the AP, software switchable polarity, site survey, etc).   No polling,
>>>> but that is one of the most overrated features anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Matt Larsen
>>>> vistabeam.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would agree... I think there is an opportunity as well. There are some
>>>>> new products in the market recently (Ubiquiti Nanostation) that could
>>>>> shake things up a little. Getting an FCC product with PoE and a Ubiquiti
>>>>> quality radio for $79 is pretty amazing (I will be testing some this
>>>>> coming week). It really makes you wonder how much money some of these
>>>>> companies can really have into a radio system (Trango, Canopy, etc.)
>>>>> when Ubiquiti can sell a brand new product for $79 MSRP. Granted there
>>>>> are not a lot of "bells and whistles", but honestly most of the WISP's
>>>>> out there don't need that. If you can buy a radio for $79, you can put
>>>>> whatever you need behind it (Cisco, Mikrotik, etc.) and still be less
>>>>> than $200 for a nice CPE.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think Trango's first mistake was the "mesh" game they played for a
>>>>> year. Then when they decide to get back into the game, they promise a
>>>>> product that seems too good to be true... and now it turns out, it was.
>>>>> So, they are now 2+ years behind everyone else in the R&D world, and
>>>>> they are losing customers left and right. The licensed market may help
>>>>> get them by for a while, but I don't think that is enough business to
>>>>> sustain the company forever.
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>>
>>>>> Charles Wu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Travis,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with you 100%...I still think there's a huge opportunity in the 
>>>>>> market right now that's being missed for a solid 2nd player (not 
>>>>>> Motorola Canopy) in the last-mile access space
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, neither you nor I run Trango
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you step back and look at the situation, this discussion is pretty 
>>>>>> interesting, coming from 2 people who really know Trango well-- we were 
>>>>>> their largest distributor back before they got rid of the channel, and 
>>>>>> you probably operate one of the largest Trango networks now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That said, you've started building out your network with different 
>>>>>> access solutions, and we're doing other stuff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like we've both moved on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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