All are the same platform, the differ only on the form factor and antennas gino
-----Original Message----- From: Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:19 PM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations Where? I see LS2/5 and PS2/5 support but nothing for NS2/5. Searching the forum I found: Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:38 pm from oswave "We currently have no plans to port oswave to NS2/NS5." And it goes on to ask why and also someone says if you order 1000 they will (likely) do it. I am not able to find it, can you post a link. On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The oswave website says it supports the NS platform > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeromie Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 1:38 PM > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations > > Oswave says there is no NS2/5 support and will not be. DD-WRT has > support. That is a shame since ros/sos seam not to have plans to > support them. I wonder how much effort/money it would be to get > Ubiquity to solicit a firmware from someone? > > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well you all have the option to flash the nanostations with oswave firmware. >> The oswave has polling... >> >> gino >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt Larsen - Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 3:21 AM >> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations >> >> Travis Johnson wrote: >>> Matt, >>> >>> I agree with almost everything you said... except the polling part. >>> Having a robust, efficient polling system is the best thing available >>> for outdoor wireless. That is one of the main reasons we are now using >>> Mikrotik is because of their Nstreme and polling system. We are >>> finding now it's not the same quality as Trango's polling, but it does >>> work. >>> >>> How else do you keep a single customer from taking down an entire AP >>> with a large upload (usually from an infection, virus, worm, etc.)? I >>> have tested this over and over and over, and every time I come back to >>> the same conclusion... you have to have a polling system to control >>> the upload, otherwise the customer with the best signal dominates the >>> AP (on the upload side). >>> >>> Here is a very simple test... set up an AP with two connected clients >>> without polling. Start an upload on one client and then try doing a >>> download or even a ping from the 2nd client. My tests show the >>> download and/or ping to be very unreliable and very sporadic. Now, if >>> you turn polling on and do the same test, everything works fine while >>> the upload is running and the 2nd client can't even tell there is an >>> upload running. >> >> Um, bandwidth limiting? As long as the AP has the upload speed coming >> from the client capped to a rate slightly less than the total capacity >> of the pipe, its not a problem. I'm doing the test right now, and I >> have rock solid pings, with a little bit of jitter. >> >>> >>> What we really need is the Nanostation-ROS... a Nanostation running >>> Mikrotik (even for $50 more per unit)... that would be the killer >>> CPE... I would place an order for 500 right now today. :) >>> >> >> Or Nanostation-SOS - a Nano running StarOS. >> >> Matt Larsen >> vistabeam.com >>> Travis >>> Microserv >>> >>> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: >>>> Hi Travis, >>>> >>>> I'm with you - the Nanostations are a pretty amazing product. I've >>>> been deploying Nanostations on 10mhz channels in 2.4 and 5ghz with >>>> StarOS access points and the performance/interference resistance is >>>> pretty amazing at ANY price point. I could say the same thing for the >>>> newer Tranzeo CPE units as well, but they can't match up with the >>>> Ubiquity price point just yet. >>>> >>>> It is neat to see a product with many of the Canopy advantages (rich >>>> features, small footprint, inexpensive to produce, good interference >>>> resistance) that is compatible with the 802.11a/b/g standards and thus >>>> able to take advantage of the very innovative Mikrotik and StarOS >>>> platforms. >>>> >>>> I'm curious to see if someone comes up with a good reflector for the >>>> Nanostation radios. That would enable the use of the adaptive antenna >>>> mode, and since StarOS has the ability to switch connectors on the fly - >>>> and potentially polarity if hooked up to a dual-pol antenna - you would >>>> end up with a standards based product that would have nearly every >>>> feature that the Trangos had that made them special (noise threshold at >>>> the AP, software switchable polarity, site survey, etc). No polling, >>>> but that is one of the most overrated features anyway. >>>> >>>> Matt Larsen >>>> vistabeam.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Travis Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I would agree... I think there is an opportunity as well. There are some >>>>> new products in the market recently (Ubiquiti Nanostation) that could >>>>> shake things up a little. Getting an FCC product with PoE and a Ubiquiti >>>>> quality radio for $79 is pretty amazing (I will be testing some this >>>>> coming week). It really makes you wonder how much money some of these >>>>> companies can really have into a radio system (Trango, Canopy, etc.) >>>>> when Ubiquiti can sell a brand new product for $79 MSRP. Granted there >>>>> are not a lot of "bells and whistles", but honestly most of the WISP's >>>>> out there don't need that. If you can buy a radio for $79, you can put >>>>> whatever you need behind it (Cisco, Mikrotik, etc.) and still be less >>>>> than $200 for a nice CPE. >>>>> >>>>> I think Trango's first mistake was the "mesh" game they played for a >>>>> year. Then when they decide to get back into the game, they promise a >>>>> product that seems too good to be true... and now it turns out, it was. >>>>> So, they are now 2+ years behind everyone else in the R&D world, and >>>>> they are losing customers left and right. The licensed market may help >>>>> get them by for a while, but I don't think that is enough business to >>>>> sustain the company forever. >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> >>>>> Charles Wu wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Travis, >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree with you 100%...I still think there's a huge opportunity in the >>>>>> market right now that's being missed for a solid 2nd player (not >>>>>> Motorola Canopy) in the last-mile access space >>>>>> >>>>>> However, neither you nor I run Trango >>>>>> >>>>>> If you step back and look at the situation, this discussion is pretty >>>>>> interesting, coming from 2 people who really know Trango well-- we were >>>>>> their largest distributor back before they got rid of the channel, and >>>>>> you probably operate one of the largest Trango networks now >>>>>> >>>>>> That said, you've started building out your network with different >>>>>> access solutions, and we're doing other stuff >>>>>> >>>>>> It looks like we've both moved on... >>>>>> >>>>>> -Charles >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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