Last I knew, it was by year's end or maybe 1Q2009.  They've already released 
some of the products they've been talking to me about.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:38 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65

> That would be great... but is there a time frame?
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Mike Hammett wrote:
>> There are companies out there working on non-802.11 3.65 GHz systems that 
>> provide the same spectral efficiency as WiMAX, but without the WiMAX hype 
>> price tag.
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:30 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65
>>
>>
>> Matt,
>>
>> I agree. We are looking at the same thing... putting up some 3.65ghz AP's 
>> on our "bigger" towers and moving heavy usage customers to that. However, 
>> until base stations are less than $8k, the WiMax people can keep spending 
>> money on advertising, trade-shows, etc. telling us how great they are, 
>> I'm not going to buy.
>>
>> When you can buy a licensed microwave radio link for $8k (less antennas), 
>> and you know the company is making money, there is no reason 3.65ghz base 
>> stations have to be $8k+.
>>
>> Hopefully at some point, they will wake up and realize there is an entire 
>> market they are missing.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Matt Larsen - Lists wrote:
>> I'm with Travis on this, with the exception of using StarOS instead of
>> Mikrotik.   It is nice to have a set of standard, mature tools such as
>> radius, cbq/iptable rules and standard, non-vendor specific hardware to
>> work with instead of having to use a limited, proprietary system limited
>> to a single vendor.  I've deployed/consulted on 802.11 a/b/g networks
>> representing 8000+ CPE units and it can be made to work just fine as
>> long as it is managed properly.   Travis is a pro, and he has the
>> experience to design his network in such a way as to maximize the
>> performance of his equipment.   There are many others out there having
>> the same success.
>>
>> FWIW, I believe the most logical next step is to start moving heavy
>> usage customers over to 3.65 WiMAX gear starting next spring.   I think
>> we are near the threshold of what is going to be possible with
>> unlicensed equipment - barring some kind of amazing breakthrough.   I
>> foresee a need to deploy smaller and smaller cells to maintain the
>> desired performance level.  It helps to have 10mhz channel sizes
>> available to maximize the utilization of existing spectrum, but even
>> that is starting to get awfully crowded.   Whitespaces sure would help.
>>
>> I spent the last two years putting up 802.11a based APs across my entire
>> service area and migrating customers from 2.4 to them to get the higher
>> ARPU from faster speeds and VOIP service.   I foresee spending the next
>> two years deploying  licensed backhauls and 3.65 APs starting with the
>> high traffic areas and working out to the fringes.   Its the neverending
>> story.
>>
>> Matt Larsen
>> vistabeam.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>   Hi,
>>
>> We don't use DHCP. Every single customer gets a real, static IP address.
>> We also a assign a static IP address to every radio (for management).
>>
>> When I posted the question a month ago about how to force an SM to
>> connect to a specific AP on a tower, the only answer was "color code".
>> This isn't really an option, as that means the installer has to change
>> the color code in the field. All of our current radios are setup and
>> ready to connect to ANY tower and ANY AP on that tower without the
>> installer doing anything in the field.
>>
>> And how does first level tech support even find the correct radio in the
>> AP list for a customer on the phone? They have to scroll through 160
>> people to find them by MAC address?
>>
>> Yes, Canopy is a slower radio in today's world. 14Mbps of total
>> throughput on a 20mhz channel is SLOW. Using Mikrotik I can get 30Mbps
>> (double the speed) on the same channel size. Or I can use a 10mhz
>> channel and get 15Mbps. And all these speeds can be delivered via upload
>> or download or any combination, I don't have to set a specific 



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