To clarify, by "real interference" I meant they are no worse than
anything else we deal with. Like any RF transmission, there are
emmisions, but those can be dealt with just like the way we (WISP's)
deal with them. The ARRL made a mountain out of  molehill and it was
all political as far as I'm concened. They used the BPL as a scapegoat
to try and get the electric companies to fix the interference hams
receive from aging electrical insulators which causes all kinds of
noise.
I personally saw a perfect example of the bias against BPL
interference. A parade of hams came to our pilot test site and claimed
we were interferering with them then & there. The funny part: We had
the system turned off! We showed it to them and they were totally
embarrased and speechless. When we turned the system back on, they
admitted that the noise was no worse than when it was off. We has
spectrum analyzers to prove it. There are some hardliners out there
that would not give up. To make their point they would drive their
vehicles (equipped with ham radio and whip antenna) within a few feet
and directly under the powerline and guess what? Give me break.
Basically, except for a few viable installations still running, BPL
was killed in it's infancy. Too bad.
-RickG

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Jonathan Schmidt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "You are correct, electric companies saw huge benefits for internal use
> but the real reason it did not move forward was because electric companies
> are conservative by nature and they didnt like the heat coming from the
> ARRL over interference issues, which btw were not real."
>
> The interference is real.  The ARRL is real and very conservative.  And,
> any conductor carrying RF that isn't a proper, geometrically arranged
> transmission line, properly terminated in the proper impedance, will
> radiate and radiate most of its RF energy.  Where do you think that goes?
> And, where do stubs dissipate their RF?...into the 4th dimension?
>
> Were it not for careful oversight of the spectrum, we would be back in the
> stone ages with AM and FM and TV because of interference.  Police and fire
> radios would be hit and miss.  Our licensed and unlicensed spectrum would
> be a mess.
>
> Blasting the HF spectrum into random lengths of conductors and stubs at
> watts of power has proved to be nasty.  It isn't just the ARRL...the
> courts have decided that.
>
> It isn't just RF on the power lines, either.  You can hear DSL
> interference in neighborhoods with overhead telephone wiring on poles when
> you try to listen to local AM stations at night when they are forced to
> drop their power.  The political influence of the Telcos to force through
> their agenda may be followed by that of the electric companies but it
> won't be to our advantage.
>
> They have the right of way, the poles, and the money.  Stringing a fiber
> along the poles along with the wiring would seem to be a far better and
> long term strategy than to pretend that wires are wires and that 60Hz is
> the same as 600,000Hz and the ground return and distribution are
> compatible architectures.
>
> The entire concept is pseudo-science, appealing to those who are easily
> fooled into thinking wishes become true because it sorta makes sense.
>
> Jonathan Schmidt
>
>
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