Maybe it's the placement of the device or just plain bad luck.  I know 
problems have existed and I know people still have issues, but I know quite 
a large pool of avid gamers (unfortunately, that's ALL some of them do) and 
none have had to replace an XBox 360 (though a couple did replace the 
original)...  and a few bought them on the day of release.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 7:58 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues

> On the 3rd unit myself in about as many years. Don't know many Xbox users 
> that not lost one due to the so called ring of death. The ones that 
> haven't bought the fan kit right of the bat. The only good thing for 
> myself is that each unit been a slight upgrade from the last one at the 
> same or close to the same price and since I bought the extended warranty 
> really haven't lost much money.
>
> /Eje
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 01:02:47
> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
>
>
> I spoke with a doctor last week who's son has gone through 4 in the last
> year.  May be just that one case, though.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> --- Henry Spencer
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Mike Hammett 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> I don't think that has been as prevalent of an issue over the past 2 
>> years
>> or so.
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:15 PM
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
>>
>> > Just a little side note here - when it comes to static IP addresses on
>> the
>> > Xbox (or a reserved DHCP lease if you're into simplicity and ease =) a
>> lot
>> > of people return their Xboxes due to hardware failure and get new units
>> > which drops the MAC address and IP configuration you had before.
>> >
>> > Josh Luthman
>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>> > 1100 Wayne St
>> > Suite 1337
>> > Troy, OH 45373
>> >
>> > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
>> > --- Henry Spencer
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Chad Halsted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> UDP 88
>> >> UDP and TCP 3074
>> >>
>> >> those ports should be forwarded from the customer router to the xbox
>> >> 360.  360 will need a static IP.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> we put this in our firewall for xbox customers and set their xbox to
>> >> 192.168.200.50/24
>> >>
>> >> net = wpci1
>> >> client = ether1
>> >>
>> >> forward udp to 192.168.200.50 88 from any to any 88 in via $net
>> >> forward udp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net
>> >> forward tcp to 192.168.200.50 3074 from any to any 3074 in via $net
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Mike Hammett 
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > You would have to Google for the exact port(s) to be forwarded on 
>> >> > the
>> >> > client's NATing routers.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm told wireless is a security hole and yet here we are...  ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----
>> >> > Mike Hammett
>> >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >> > http://www.ics-il.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --------------------------------------------------
>> >> > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:24 AM
>> >> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
>> >> >
>> >> >> upnp is a huge security whole I'm told.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What port forwarding would be needed for a game system anyway?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is there something I should be trying on the routers?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> marlon
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 4:46 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> If uPNP is on, it should work as it's supposed to and the XBox
>> >> >>> requests
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> port forwarding from the router without manual intervention.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -----
>> >> >>> Mike Hammett
>> >> >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >> >>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:23 PM
>> >> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> upnp?  We ALWAYS turn that off.  What do you do with it?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:59 PM
>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> Usually uPNP takes care of it, but they need a specific port
>> >> forwarded
>> >> >>>>> to
>> >> >>>>> the box to work.  If they have more than one console inside... 
>> >> >>>>> I
>> >> dunno
>> >> >>>>> what
>> >> >>>>> to do about that.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> -----
>> >> >>>>> Mike Hammett
>> >> >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >> >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:51 PM
>> >> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> What setting would that be?  I've never changed the NAT 
>> >> >>>>>> settings
>> >> >>>>>> in
>> >> a
>> >> >>>>>> router
>> >> >>>>>> that I set up for a customer.
>> >> >>>>>> marlon
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>>>>> From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:32 AM
>> >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> Indeed.  Make sure the NAT settings are correct so they have 
>> >> >>>>>>> the
>> >> best
>> >> >>>>>>> pick
>> >> >>>>>>> of people to connect with.
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> -----
>> >> >>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>> >> >>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> >> >>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>> >> >>>>>>> From: "Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:36 AM
>> >> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] xbox 360 issues
>> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Call of Duty has to be another big one - those WW2 games 
>> >> >>>>>>>>> have
>> >> >>>>>>>>> dominated
>> >> >>>>>>>>> the
>> >> >>>>>>>>> market for a while.
>> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Odd I can't find a ranking for Xbox live games.  I am
>> confident
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Halo
>> >> >>>>>>>>> and
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Call of Duty have the majority of games.  I can't verify 
>> >> >>>>>>>>> that
>> >> Call
>> >> >>>>>>>>> of
>> >> >>>>>>>>> Duty
>> >> >>>>>>>>> does games p2p versus client-server, though.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> One player in the match will be selected as the server based 
>> >> >>>>>>>> on
>> >> the
>> >> >>>>>>>> quality of there connection with COD4 and COD5.  Its too bad
>> >> >>>>>>>> they
>> >> >>>>>>>> did
>> >> >>>>>>>> not allow dedicated linux game servers for these games.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> I always tell custommers that if all the players in the given
>> >> match
>> >> >>>>>>>> have a crappy connection its the server.  If its just them 
>> >> >>>>>>>> then
>> >> >>>>>>>> it
>> >> >>>>>>>> 'might' be a problem with there connection.  I have seen a
>> >> >>>>>>>> number
>> >> of
>> >> >>>>>>>> users with NAT issues on there router though.  Also, many 
>> >> >>>>>>>> times
>> >> they
>> >> >>>>>>>> connect to there router wireless with the xbox or ps3 and 
>> >> >>>>>>>> that
>> >> >>>>>>>> connection goes crappy.
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>> Matt
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >>>>>>>>
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