>From what I understood from the guys at Tranzeo, just because they are manufactured both by Tranzeo and they are the same freq, there are hooks into all of the CPEs so that they are not cross-compatible. This might need clarification, but I was sure that this was the case in speaking with their guys. In other words, the Tranzeo / Redline CPEs work only with Redline, the Tranzeo / Vecima CPEs work only with Vecima. The Tranzeo CPEs direct from Tranzeo will not work with either .. This was done so that end-users don't shop around to piece together the system.
I might be wrong, but I remember when I heard this described I did the whole "dog tilting it's head sideways" thing ... -drew On 12/13/08 5:32 PM, "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote: > > > it uses 802.03af PS ... > > My point was that you could use the low cost Vecima Bases with these > CPEs ... > > or stick with el cheapo tranzeo units .... Would you pay extra $50 for a > quality cpe? I'll do > > Definetly Tranzeo does not manufacture this unit .... > > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > > > > ________________________________ > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Travis Johnson > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:21 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vecima 3.65 > > > Ummmm.... pricing is WAY, WAY different. > > Redline AP's are around $10k > Vecima AP's are around $4k > > Redline CPE's are $300 each (even in 250 quantity) > Vecima CPE's are less than $249 > > And, I was told Tranzeo is making Redline's CPE as well? Could you send > a picture of the Redline CPE? > > Travis > Microserv > > Gino Villarini wrote: > > iirc one vendor told me the recline CPe could talk with the > Vecima > base.... > > > The redline units are top notch quality construction, no tranzeo > > mickey mouse stuff. > > > Afaik pricing is not much diferent > > > Gino > > Sent from my Motorola Startac... > > > On Dec 13, 2008, at 2:37 PM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> > <mailto:t...@ida.net> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > We received our Vecima "trial" kit (one AP and five CPE) > on Thursday > afternoon. We have not yet put it on a tower, as there > were several > issues with their software on the AP... but here's some > info thus far: > > The base station is quite large. It measures > approximately 14 inches > tall x 8 inches wide x 6 inches thick. It weighs about > 25 pounds > (seriously). It has an RJ-45 ethernet connector and an > N-male > connector on the bottom. (I was lead to believe they had > omni, 90 > degree, 120 degree and connectorized versions, and I > requested the > 120 unit, but instead got this with an LMR jumper and an > MTI 120 > antenna). > > We began by getting into the AP and making some "normal" > changes > (downlink was set to 50%, so we changed it to 70%). Also > the center > frequency was set to 3.410 so we changed that to 3.650. > We also > changed to 7mhz channel size. We then applied and > rebooted... and > then we could no longer get into the "radio" > configuration page > (where we had just made all those changes). So we did a > factory > reset and tried again. Same thing. We opened a trouble > ticket with > Vecima the next morning, and they were able to reproduce > the problem > in their lab. Then about 3 hours later, another tech > called back and > told us we needed to upgrade the firmware (even though > the first > tech said we were running the latest). We upgraded and > that fixed > the problem... but then we had a new problem. The > "Allowed MAC > address" file somehow got corrupted... so they had to > SSH into the > base station and fix that file. (By the way, this AP is > just running > Linux 2.6.14 kernel). We were now able to make a > connection to one > of the CPE (after setting up the service classifiers, > service flows, > and adding a service flow to this MAC address). Making a > link on our > test bench (10 feet away), we had a -55ish signal... > however, the > ping times and speeds were terrible (2000ms and at the > most 2Mbps). > I am thinking it was because this is running OFDM and in > close > proximity, the signals bounce all over. Last, all three > techs that I > talked to at Vecima asked "Do you have an NMS (network > management > server)?" and I had to continually say "no" and then > they would say > "oh... I don't know how to do this manually". One of the > reasons we > were testing this solution is that it did not require > their NMS to > function... however, even their tech support is pretty > limited if > you don't have it. Their NMS server is about $5,000 (but > a single > server will support an entire network, with unlimited > AP's and CPE). > > On to the CPE: This is one of the worst designs of a CPE > that I have > ever seen. The entire unit is made by Tranzeo and looks > just like > their normal 2.4 CPE. It has the bar of lights on the > top showing > Power, LAN, RSSI, etc. The mounting bracket is the "L" > bracket that > bolts to the back and has a U-bolt and clamp to hook to > the pipe. > The biggest problem is how the ethernet cable connects. > It has the > white cover plate that goes over the RJ-45 connector > that has to be > bolted to the back of the radio... the problem is, the > pass-thru > connector is not big enough to allow an already crimped > RJ-45 cable > to pass thru... meaning, you have to run the cable thru > the white > plastic thing, then crimp it, then plug it in, and then > screw the > nuts down holding the white cover. If you ever have to > replace the > radio with something different, you have to cut the > cable and then > re-crimp. Also, I can guarantee that water is going to > get into the > RJ-45 as it is on the back of the radio and the water > will always be > trying to get into the white cover and then will just > "flow" right > into the RJ-45. I have attached a picture that is 99% > the same as > this unit (except this unit is smaller than the > picture). The other > issue is the PoE injector that comes with the unit. This > is the > worst PoE that I have ever seen. I don't understand why > they can't > use a grounded PoE that doesn't require a separate > ground wire. Use > the ground built into the electrical wiring that is > already there > (like the PacWireless PoE units). Attached is a picture > of the PoE > that was supplied. > > I will be testing the speeds and range this Monday > (assuming the > weather is better... we got 6" of snow and 40MPH winds > last night). > I will post more results as I have them. At this point, > I am not > really impressed with a $4,000 AP that's just running > Linux. > > Travis > Microserv > <cpe.jpg> > <poe.jpg> > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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