Eje, thanks for the lesson! -RickG

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:50 AM, <e...@wisp-router.com> wrote:

> Generally a omni send signal straight out and a high gain omni might only
> have 5 to 6 degree vertical beam width. So only 2.5 to 3 deg is aim down.
> A lower gain antenna will have wider beam width. But then you also have
> quality antennas with electronic downtilt on them so say a high gain antenna
> with 7deg beam (typical on a 12dB omni) you have 3 degree electronic downtil
> (also typical value) only 0.5 degrees of the signal is sent above horizon
> line.
>
> A 15dB omni might only have about 5 deg beam and if you have no electronic
> downtilt it becomes useless on taller structures. Unless your clients are
> only far out (depending on hight might have to be very far out).
>
> You can play with my down tilt calculator.
> http://www.wisp-router.com/calculators/downtilt.php
>
> You do not want to have customers closer then the inner -3dB radius and
> most of them should be close to the sweet spot and of course they should not
> be outside outer -3dB (with omni generally no risk unless your providing
> internet to aliens. ;) )
>
> /Eje
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com>
>
> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:23:55
> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower issue
>
>
> Marlon,
>
> I was thinking about what you said about high gain omni antennas sending
> more signal UP. With respect to direction, what's the difference between
> between a high gain unit and a lower gain unit?
>
> -RickG
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Not sure if it's related or not, but high gain omni antennas are usually
> a
> > great big no no.  They tend to send more signal UP than in the direction
> of
> > the customers.
> >
> > I'd replace it with an 8 or 9 db unit just on principal.  You'll probably
> > find that most customers will actually get a BETTER signal.
> >
> > laters,
> > marlon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 7:23 PM
> > Subject: [WISPA] tower issue
> >
> >
> > > OK, here a good one! (aka, how I spent my weekend in a blizzard!)
> > >
> > > One of my towers has a single WARP/StarOS connected to a 5GHz grid for
> > > backhaul and a 15dBi omni for the local connections.
> > > On Saturday, after making some small changes, I rebooted it and it
> would
> > > not
> > > allow me to connect via wireless any longer - or my customers :(
> > > So, I go to the tower, connect up via ethernet and everything is a
> usual
> > > but
> > > I see all associations but only a few client have ip addresses. I can
> > ping
> > > the few clients but the packet loss is huge 80-90%. I then reload my
> > > backup
> > > but still get the same thing. I try changing channels, but still the
> > same.
> > > I
> > > then systematically begin replacing parts starting with the radio card.
> > > Eventually, I replaced EVERYTHING but still have the problem. One note:
> > > occasionally, twice of maybe three times, after a reboot, all came back
> > > normal. The third time, I left well enough alone for now but of course,
> > > you
> > > know what will happen the next time I reboot.
> > >
> > > Any ideas???
> > >
> > > -RickG
> > >
> > >
> > >
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