Well said Patrick... I would like to add - as a whole the industry uses the word "mobility" all the time and has used that pretense of mobile broadband coverage anywhere you go as a staple to the word WiMAX. The truth is WiMAX from about any of the WiMAX manufacturers has made great improvements in QoS and receive sensitivities with the use of smarter antenna technology but still fall short in the realm of seamless mobility most of us have grown to expect with our cell phones/hand held devices. That is 802.16d 802.16e offers the "promise" of mobility in a seamless sense, meaning roaming from tower to tower or sector to sector without any noticeable drop in service. Wow I wish my cell phone never dropped a call. That may sound great but like Patrick said the carrier groups that can maybe afford the costs of the huge build out required to have that type of coverage have their ties to LTE technology or are tied up with the tough economic times as we all are.
Now let's look at the present technology of 802.16d and Aperto as this thread entails. I can drive from one town to another and get associated and pass data(12Mbx8Mb). Since I drove with a CPE in my car and mobile antenna on my roof that makes me mobile on that network right. So I may have dropped a few packets as I roamed from site to site but as long as I can get IP back up everything is good. Aperto has a very reliable cost effective solution today for 3.65GHz and like any manufacture it has the functionality of WiMAX which helps a ton with service profiling for your customers. If people are not using some sort of 802.16(WiMAX) product they are falling behind in the exciting future of the Wireless Marketplace. Now a WiMAX rant, not sure if the WiMAX Forums ears are open but, I am disappointed that I do not have a CPE(802.16d) that can link to anyone's Base Stations. Sure with the onset of 802.16e that is supposed to work but the lack of earlier interoperability that the WiMAX forum promised from the onset has been disappointing to me. If we had interoperable systems like the essence of WiFi with the current WiMAX systems the marketplace may have been quicker to embrace the technology and great strides could have been made for network roaming already. Roaming agreements could already be in place if interoperability was the true focus from the beginning. End WiMAX rant.... John Rock Director of Operations - Senior Engineer Wireless Connections 166 Milan Ave., Norwalk, Oh. 44857 ACCessing the Future Today!! ofc. 419.660.6100 cell 419-706-7356 fax 419-668-4077 http://www.wirelessconnections.net This transmission and any files attached to it, may contain confidential and/or privileged information and intended only for the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, retransmission, dissemination, disclosure, copying or any use of the information or files contained is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete this electronic mail. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:00 PM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to knowwhatyouthink. It's a fair question and it bugs me too. Fact is, I was a more than a bit blind and thought I was more objective than I really was. Also, since then the economy and other conditions has conspired to kick e in the teeth a bit. I still believe it is great technology for nomadic and perhaps mobile, but it is damned near impossible to fight the LTE interests AND the current economy that is so weak no big guys are spending big CAPEX, giving LTE all the time it needs to catch technically (and it already dominates politically). That has me moving back to where I began -- wireless broadband is primarily a fixed business, with some added nomadicity in some cases. For that, d is the better standard, at least with my current hindsight. Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of can...@believewireless.net Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:33 AM To: jefftho...@fastmail.fm; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to knowwhatyouthink. Patrick, can you clarify the e vs. d for me. The reason I ask is that I saw you do the Alvarion webinar and claimed that e was the only way to go. Now that you are with Aperto, d is the only way to go. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Jeff Booher <jefftho...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > Marlon, > > What are you talking about? Our product is very reliable, and we have > many very happy customers ( including some very large ones such as > towerstream ) > > - > > Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 10:00 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know > whatyouthink. > > I have heard NOTHING good about their product's reliability. I have > one consulting customer that's still using them, his failure rates are shocking. > > I'd have dumped them years ago. > > Unless this changes I'd stay far far away from Aperto. (I've been to > the Ca. offices and like the people that run the show, but that > doesn't help my customers at all.) > > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat O'Connor" <p...@inlandnet.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:29 PM > Subject: [WISPA] Anybody use Aperto for 3.65GHz? I'd like to know what > youthink. > > >> We're looking to deploy 3.65GHz this year in a couple of different >> locations because of interference issues. So far they have the most >> compelling price point. I'd like to know how well it works in the >> field. All opinions appreciated. Hit me off list if you want to.\ >> >> Thanks, >> >> Pat >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> ---------- >> WISPA Wants You! 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