The modern day WISP that is smaller has to run more efficiently, I lost
my system admin in the last budget cut.  He helps from his new job but
the network is pretty much up to me, a former ISP owner and not the most
technically inclined as I should be.  Obviously I have more knowledge
than the average bear but reading code, design specs or engineering can
sometimes be a bit much, that's why I have the savings from a full time
admin to hire people who can guide me.  My feeling is Marlon is pretty
much in the same boat.  While some in WISPA have thousands of customers
in more urban/suburban environments we are all rural.  Speaking only for
myself I'm frequently in over my head, that's why I belong to this
group, I'm a much better businessman than tech but I learn easily when I
have interest in a topic.  We try not to look dumb when we ask for help
and try to compensate for the help with volunteering for projects,
paying for consulting or just a big thanks.  Some on here may think
non-geeks don't belong but we're all in this for the same reason, I
personally left the Fire Service to learn and build this business, Maybe
I can't engineer a backhaul but I can sure do CPR if you need it, done
it over 200 times.  Just show a little patience and if you don't want to
educate the ignorant that's your right but we sure appreciate it when
you can help and I for one promise to not ask for too much at once or
act like our lovely customers who can't find the start button.  Thanks
for what you do help, I appreciate it!

 

Forbes

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 6:36 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul

 

Marlon,

Honestly, based on the questions you are asking, I think you may be in
over your head on this project. You may want to seek some help from
someone that has actually done this type of work and knows what they are
doing.

Travis
Microserv

Marlon K. Schafer wrote: 

Thanks.
 
Do you think we need the unlicensed for each hop if the entire network
is 
build in a circle?
marlon
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> <mailto:t...@ida.net> 
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 100 meg full duplex backhaul
 
 
  

        Licensed 18ghz links with 5.8ghz backup links for each hop.
Figure
        $15,000 per link for everything.
         
        Travis
        Microserv
         
        Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
            

                Hi All,
                 
                I'm looking for some gear that'll be rock solid at 15 to
20 miles.  Some
                links may be less, but I'm not counting on that.
                 
                I'll be hauling public safety, private vpns, and normal
internet traffic.
                 
                I'll probably have around 20 towers, all linked in a
ring.  I can load 
                share
                across the ring as long as speeds never drop below
100megs.  I'll want
                things to be automatically self healing if there is a
loss of 
                connectivity
                in any direction.
                 
                What would you guys use/suggest?
                 
                I'd love to go licensed (but no 6 gig due to antenna
sizes) but 
                unlicensed
                may be OK due to the failover capabilities.
                 
                We have to worry about snow, fog and, worst of all, dust
storms.
                 
                What gear would you use?  How would you set this up?
                 
                I'm in the pricing stage so off list quotes etc. are
welcome.  Pall park
                numbers are fine at this time, as long as they tend to
run high vs. low, 
                I'd
                rather over estimate the costs.
                 
                thanks,
                marlon
                 
                 
                 
        
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