yeah, I read what it said. It's a VERY white washed and politically correct version though. It's certainly NOT what our current liberalism is here. If liberalism were really about equal opportunity we'd not get punished for being successful. Nor would people be rewarded for failure/bad decisions. marlon
----- Original Message ----- From: "George Rogato" <wi...@oregonfast.net> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools > Liberalism is a broad class of political philosophies that considers > individual liberty and equality to be the most important political > goals.[1] > > Liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. > Within liberalism, there are various streams of thought which compete > over the use of the term "liberal" and may propose very different > policies, but they are generally united by their support for > constitutional liberalism, which encompasses support for: freedom of > thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of > law, an individual's right to private property,[2] and a transparent > system of government.[3][4][5] All liberals, as well as some adherents > of other political ideologies, support some variant of the form of > government known as liberal democracy, with open and fair elections, > where all citizens have equal rights by law.[6] > > > Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism >> >> That one is about as far off as it can get. I think liberalism is >> interested in equal outcome, not equal opportunity. It's interested in >> eliminating the poor, bad grades, winners and losers etc. Liberalism >> wants >> to make sure you don't loose that house you shouldn't have etc..... >> >> <flame suit on> >> >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Brad Belton" <b...@belwave.com> >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools >> >> >>> Responded off list, but this is interesting...especially the last >>> paragraph... >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic >>> >>> Brad >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Tom Sharples >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:29 AM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools >>> >>> In the early 1920's, things got to the point in Germany where it cost >>> 100 >>> million marks to send a letter across town. Be careful what you wish >>> for. >>> >>> Tom S. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Brad Belton" <b...@belwave.com> >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:32 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools >>> >>> >>>> Oh!!!...you just hit the nail on the head! If the money is for >>>> me...well >>>> then it's ok. Someone else and then it's not. <grin> >>>> >>>> That's why I'm for the $7k, $20k, $80k (whatever it is) check sent to >>>> my >>>> home address made out to Yours Truly instead! >>>> >>>> Then we're all benefiting and can stimulate the economy as we each see >>>> fit. >>>> >>>> Brad >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of George Rogato >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools >>>> >>>> I heard from my far right wing buddy, that the plan is to get to $15 >>>> Trillion by the time they are all done. >>>> >>>> Seriously. >>>> >>>> For the record, I am not sure if anyone else has noticed, but I have >>>> yet >>>> to actually meet anyone, anyone from the far left to the far right, and >>>> we have plenty of both around here, that think any of this bail out is >>>> worth while. >>>> I hear, give Americans a free tax year and let us stimulate that way. I >>>> hear let them fail, it's natural for the weak to fail, and it;s there >>>> own fault. >>>> But I just have not heard one person say, I agree what a great idea. >>>> And >>>> I come across a lot of people. >>>> >>>> >>>> I like the idea money will be spent on broadband, but not citigroup, >>>> myself. >>>> >>>> George >>>> >>>> >>>> Chuck Bartosch wrote: >>>>> LOL, dude, some pretty trivial math would tell you that's clearly not >>>>> even in the ballpark! >>>>> >>>>> Maybe if the stimulus were $7.4 trillion, not $740 billion. But, hey, >>>>> what's a factor of 10 or so between friends, eh? >>>>> >>>>> ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Chuck >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 10, 2009, at 10:32 PM, Brad Belton wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is it true that the amount of money spent in "stimulus" plans would >>>>>> be equal >>>>>> to or less than the government writing every household in America a >>>>>> $70k or >>>>>> $80k check? >>>>>> >>>>>> Something tells me that would have been better use of taxpayer funds >>>>>> to >>>>>> "stimulate" the economy rather than what has and is been done so >>>>>> far... >>>>>> >>>>>> Brad >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 7:34 PM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] schools >>>>>> >>>>>> Too bad this isn't really helping much. I am heading to a Public >>>>>> Hearing >>>>>> right now for our school district. Even with the stimulus money, they >>>>>> are still talking about getting rid of 20-30 teachers and counselors >>>>>> next school year. And the year after that there may be that many >>>>>> more. >>>>>> That's a 10-15% reduction in our school district. >>>>>> >>>>>> So now it's looking like we did a $700 Billion dollar "loan", and we >>>>>> are >>>>>> STILL going to have a ton more layoffs and businesses going out of >>>>>> business. :( >>>>>> >>>>>> Travis >>>>>> Microserv >>>>>> >>>>>> RickG wrote: >>>>>>> Where is this headed? >>>>>>> http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/recovery/factsheet/overview.html >>>>>>> Is this an income stream possibility for a WISP? >>>>>>> -RickG >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> ---- >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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