Of course, they'll bill you 10 times that and never fix their billing issues! -RickG
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Chadd Thompson <chad...@msn.com> wrote: > Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial > DS3. > > 10mb: $4300 > 20mb: $4788 > 30mb: $5300 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I > won't > say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well over $5k. > > The provider must always provide you with IPs, assuming you meet > justification. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Richey" <myli...@battleop.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:39 AM > To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > /rant on > > > > Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in a > market > > where it's not cost effective to multi home. Where many people might get > > a > > DS3 for as little as $1500/mo or less, some may pay $3,000+/month. For > > those who are in more rural areas stuck paying high prices for their > > connection to the backbone it's just not cost effective to multi home in > > the > > beginning. > > > > If you are single homed you must use /20 (4096 IPs) before they will give > > you an allocation. I have had problems in the past with a similar > > situation > > where a network was using 12 class c and the upstream refused to allocate > > any more IPs saying we needed to go to ARIN. ARIN would not do anything > > until we were using a /20 so it became a chicken or the egg problem. > > > > The policy should be different for an ISP. If you are a small ISP > > multi-homed or not you should be able to get a /22. It makes it hard for > > the smaller provider to change backbone providers because their IP blocks > > are non portable. > > > > /rant off > > > > Richey > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Cliff Olle > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 AM > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > > I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 > days > > or they could revoke my IP's. Would they allot a /20 in the case you are > > only using 4 class Cs? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Scott Piehn > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > > One add to the /22. You need to be or plan to be running BGP. > > > > > > Scott > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Thomas" <jtho...@quarnet.com> > > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:54 PM > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > > > >> If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if > >> you are not, then you will need to justify a /20 ( 16 class C's) > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > >>> We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's > >>> and > >>> will need more pretty soon in one location. > >>> > >>> Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? > >>> > >>> marlon > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > ---- > >>> WISPA Wants You! 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