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----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -------------------------------------------------- From: "Chadd Thompson" <chad...@msn.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:22 PM To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial > DS3. > > 10mb: $4300 > 20mb: $4788 > 30mb: $5300 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I > won't > say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well over $5k. > > The provider must always provide you with IPs, assuming you meet > justification. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Richey" <myli...@battleop.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:39 AM > To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > >> /rant on >> >> Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in a >> market >> where it's not cost effective to multi home. Where many people might get >> a >> DS3 for as little as $1500/mo or less, some may pay $3,000+/month. For >> those who are in more rural areas stuck paying high prices for their >> connection to the backbone it's just not cost effective to multi home in >> the >> beginning. >> >> If you are single homed you must use /20 (4096 IPs) before they will give >> you an allocation. I have had problems in the past with a similar >> situation >> where a network was using 12 class c and the upstream refused to allocate >> any more IPs saying we needed to go to ARIN. ARIN would not do anything >> until we were using a /20 so it became a chicken or the egg problem. >> >> The policy should be different for an ISP. If you are a small ISP >> multi-homed or not you should be able to get a /22. It makes it hard for >> the smaller provider to change backbone providers because their IP blocks >> are non portable. >> >> /rant off >> >> Richey >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Cliff Olle >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 AM >> To: 'WISPA General List' >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN >> >> I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 >> days >> or they could revoke my IP's. Would they allot a /20 in the case you are >> only using 4 class Cs? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Scott Piehn >> Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN >> >> One add to the /22. You need to be or plan to be running BGP. >> >> >> Scott >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Thomas" <jtho...@quarnet.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:54 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN >> >> >>> If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if >>> you are not, then you will need to justify a /20 ( 16 class C's) >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>> We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's >>>> and >>>> will need more pretty soon in one location. >>>> >>>> Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process? >>>> >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> ---- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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