Someone should be using this example in a way to push wireless as a 2nd option for bup and redundancy
Gino Sent from my Motorola Startac... Begin forwarded message: > From: Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> > Date: April 11, 2009 7:25:26 PM GMT-04:00 > To: Sean Donelan <s...@donelan.com> > Cc: na...@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Fiber cut in SF area > > Anyone know how banks in the Bay Area did through this? I wonder how > many > banks went dark and whether they had any backup plans/connectivity. Me > thinks its doubtful. > > I also wonder if the bigger pharmacies such as Longs, Walgreens, > Rite-Aid, > Etc had thought about these kinds of issues? I personally doubt it. > I bet > you they went dark along with everyone else. Unfortunate. > > The funny thing is that the California lottery would be somewhat > immuned to > this kind of disaster as they actually use Hughes VSAT at every single > retailer. > > Sorry for the random thoughts... > > -Mike > > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Sean Donelan <s...@donelan.com> > wrote: > >> On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Roger Marquis wrote: >> >>> The real problem is route redundancy. This is what the original >>> contract >>> from DARPA to BBM, to create the Internet, was about! "The net" was >>> created to enable communications bttn point A and point B in this >>> exact >>> scenario. >>> >> >> Uh, not exactly. There was diversity in this case, but there was >> also N+1 >> breaks. Outside of a few counties in the Bay Area, the rest of the >> country's telecommunication system was unaffected. So in that >> sense the >> system worked as designed. >> >> Read the original DARPA papers, they were not about making sure >> grandma >> could still make a phone call. >> >> >> For a good "man in the street" perspective of how the outage effected >>> things like a pharmacy's ability to fill subscriptions and a >>> university >>> computer's ability to boot check out a couple of shows broadcast >>> on KUSP >>> (Santa Cruz Public Radio) this morning: >>> >> >> Why didn't the "man in the street" pharmacy have its own backup >> plans? >> >> Why didn't the pharmacy also have a COMCAST or RCN broadband >> connection for >> alternative Internet access besides AT&T or Verizon, a Citizens >> Band radio >> channel 9 for alternative emergency communications besides 9-1-1, >> a satellite phone for alternative communications besides local cell >> phones, >> and a Hughes VSAT dish for yet even more diversity? Why was the >> pharmacy >> relying on a single provider? Or do it the old-fashion way before >> computers >> and telecommunications; keep a backup paper file of their records >> so they >> could continue to fill prescriptions? >> >> Why didn't the pharmacy have more self-diversity? Probably the usual >> reason, more diversity costs more. That may be the reason why >> hospitals >> have more diversity than neighborhood pharmacies; and emergency >> rooms have >> other ways to get medicine. Maintaining diversity and backups is >> probably >> also part of the reason why filling a prescription at a hospital is >> much >> more expensive than filling a prescription at your neighborhood >> pharmacy. >> >> Likewise, why didn't grandma have her own pharmacy backup plan. >> Don't wait >> until the last minute to refill a critical presciption, have backup >> copies >> of prescriptions with her doctor, have an account with an alternative >> pharmacist in case her primary pharmacist isn't reachable, etc. >> >> Readiness works better if everyone does their part, including >> grandma. >> >> Next time it won't be AT&T, it will be Cox or Comcast or Qwest or >> Level 3 >> or Global Crossing or .... or .... or .... . It won't be >> vandalism, it will >> be an earthquake, backhoe, gas main explosion, operator error, .... >> >> Everything fails sometimes. What's your plan? >> >> http://www.ready.gov/ >> >> personal opinion only >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
