I was in Gilroy that day which was the longest and hardest hit area. Everything was cash only.
However, seeing we backhaul everything wirelessly our customers still happily kept plugging along. Andrew MacLeod Network Operations Manager Etheric Networks 877.541.3905 Sent from my iPhone On Apr 11, 2009, at 17:28, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > Two big towers would get above buildings, interference wouldn't be a > problem if they could get even more spectrum to themselves. > > On 4/11/09, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: >> I would imagine trying to do any kind of wireless, even licensed, >> could be >> very difficult in the LA / SF / SJ areas.... >> >> Travis >> >> >> Gino Villarini wrote: >>> >>> Someone should be using this example in a way to push wireless as a >>> 2nd option for bup and redundancy >>> >>> >>> Gino >>> >>> Sent from my Motorola Startac... >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> From: Mike Lyon <mike.l...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: April 11, 2009 7:25:26 PM GMT-04:00 >>>> To: Sean Donelan <s...@donelan.com> >>>> Cc: na...@nanog.org >>>> Subject: Re: Fiber cut in SF area >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Anyone know how banks in the Bay Area did through this? I wonder >>>> how >>>> many >>>> banks went dark and whether they had any backup plans/ >>>> connectivity. Me >>>> thinks its doubtful. >>>> >>>> I also wonder if the bigger pharmacies such as Longs, Walgreens, >>>> Rite-Aid, >>>> Etc had thought about these kinds of issues? I personally doubt it. >>>> I bet >>>> you they went dark along with everyone else. Unfortunate. >>>> >>>> The funny thing is that the California lottery would be somewhat >>>> immuned to >>>> this kind of disaster as they actually use Hughes VSAT at every >>>> single >>>> retailer. >>>> >>>> Sorry for the random thoughts... >>>> >>>> -Mike >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Sean Donelan <s...@donelan.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Roger Marquis wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The real problem is route redundancy. This is what the original >>>>>> contract >>>>>> from DARPA to BBM, to create the Internet, was about! "The >>>>>> net" was >>>>>> created to enable communications bttn point A and point B in this >>>>>> exact >>>>>> scenario. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Uh, not exactly. There was diversity in this case, but there was >>>>> also N+1 >>>>> breaks. Outside of a few counties in the Bay Area, the rest of >>>>> the >>>>> country's telecommunication system was unaffected. So in that >>>>> sense the >>>>> system worked as designed. >>>>> >>>>> Read the original DARPA papers, they were not about making sure >>>>> grandma >>>>> could still make a phone call. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For a good "man in the street" perspective of how the outage >>>>> effected >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> things like a pharmacy's ability to fill subscriptions and a >>>>>> university >>>>>> computer's ability to boot check out a couple of shows broadcast >>>>>> on KUSP >>>>>> (Santa Cruz Public Radio) this morning: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Why didn't the "man in the street" pharmacy have its own backup >>>>> plans? >>>>> >>>>> Why didn't the pharmacy also have a COMCAST or RCN broadband >>>>> connection for >>>>> alternative Internet access besides AT&T or Verizon, a Citizens >>>>> Band radio >>>>> channel 9 for alternative emergency communications besides 9-1-1, >>>>> a satellite phone for alternative communications besides local >>>>> cell >>>>> phones, >>>>> and a Hughes VSAT dish for yet even more diversity? Why was the >>>>> pharmacy >>>>> relying on a single provider? Or do it the old-fashion way before >>>>> computers >>>>> and telecommunications; keep a backup paper file of their records >>>>> so they >>>>> could continue to fill prescriptions? >>>>> >>>>> Why didn't the pharmacy have more self-diversity? Probably the >>>>> usual >>>>> reason, more diversity costs more. That may be the reason why >>>>> hospitals >>>>> have more diversity than neighborhood pharmacies; and emergency >>>>> rooms have >>>>> other ways to get medicine. Maintaining diversity and backups is >>>>> probably >>>>> also part of the reason why filling a prescription at a hospital >>>>> is >>>>> much >>>>> more expensive than filling a prescription at your neighborhood >>>>> pharmacy. >>>>> >>>>> Likewise, why didn't grandma have her own pharmacy backup plan. >>>>> Don't wait >>>>> until the last minute to refill a critical presciption, have >>>>> backup >>>>> copies >>>>> of prescriptions with her doctor, have an account with an >>>>> alternative >>>>> pharmacist in case her primary pharmacist isn't reachable, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Readiness works better if everyone does their part, including >>>>> grandma. >>>>> >>>>> Next time it won't be AT&T, it will be Cox or Comcast or Qwest or >>>>> Level 3 >>>>> or Global Crossing or .... or .... or .... . It won't be >>>>> vandalism, it will >>>>> be an earthquake, backhoe, gas main explosion, operator >>>>> error, .... >>>>> >>>>> Everything fails sometimes. What's your plan? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.ready.gov/ >>>>> >>>>> personal opinion only >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> > > > -- > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. > --- Henry Spencer > > > --- > --- > --- > --- > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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