Changing out the RB600 with this new RB433 setup.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

So you are going with what? Rb433's or the rb600? 


Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:34 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test

About a week ago there was some discussion about 5ghz radio's being
installed in the same board and causing self-interference on adjacent
channels and possible even on the entire band thus decreasing throughput
on backhauls. Because even if you were operating on frequency's 5745 and
5825 the two radio's would have side lobe harmonics that if installed in
the same enclosure they would still "hear" each other at that short of
separation. I decided to combat this problem and find a solution and
share my experience with the list. 

 

I installed a single XR5 card into 3 different RB433's with indoor
enclosures. I also installed foil tape which I obtained from the local
True Value store for $2.49 on all the vent holes and unused bulkhead
connector holes. This was done in order to prevent RF side lobe leaks
from the three radio's that would escape from the indoor enclosures
themselves. Having only
1 card inside each enclosures I should not have a heat problem as the
outdoor box will not be in direct sunlight. 

 

I then stacked all 3 enclosures on top of each other with dummy loads on
each of the N-bulkhead connectors and did some testing. This is what I
found:

 

I set the bottom board as AP and the middle board as Client on frequency
5825. Even with this close of separation the two XR5's could only see
each other at -83 on the same channel. With the top board connecting to
the bottom board they could only see each other at -90. Keep in mind
this is on the same frequency so adjacent channels should be much less
than that possibly even in the -100 ranges. Wish I had a spectrum
analyzer. With two boards separating the AP and Client there was no link
at all. The two boards could not even see each other in an AP scan.

 

Just as a comparison with the same radio's installed all on a RB600 not
on top of each other but in the adjacent mpci slots the radio's were all
seeing each other at -30's. So I gained roughly -55 db of separation by
doing it this way. So all I would have to do now is make sure that the
antennas on the tower have at least 10 foot of vertical separation and
the self-interference problem should be gone and I should be enjoying
much more throughput!

 

Thoughts anyone?

 

 

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com

 

 

 



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