Hello Mike,

Have to step in here and disagree.  Private property.  If they don't want
you they can keep you out one way or another.  This may not sit well with
some, but it is the proper thing to do.  The market will always sort these
type of issues out themselves without third party or government
intervention.

This is no different than comparing any property amenity.  Property "A" has
XYZ vs. Property "B" doesn't.  Some will find the XYZ amenity important and
opt for Property "A" over "B".  If enough people do then you can bet
Property "B" will find a way to add XYZ or a comparable amenity.

Best,


Brad


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of John Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Service Limits

I realize that is the way it is supposed to happen, but that hasn't 
happened here.
We have Office space in Bishop Ranch, San Ramon CA. We are not allowed 
in the MPOE, and apparently others aren't either. We have been able to 
get T-1s pulled in, and then we gave handed the authorized personnel the 
other end of our Cat 5 to punch down and connect our Service Providers 
T-1's. When we asked Time Warner about the fiber, they sent us a map, 
showing fiber at the sidewalk, less than 100 feet away, and they claimed 
that Bishop Ranch wouldn't lt them in the MPOE, so they couldn't 
deliver. Maybe someone has bogus information?

John


Mike Hammett wrote:
> If you want their service, they can't restrict you, AFAIK.
>
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> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
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> From: "John Thomas" <jtho...@quarnet.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:57 PM
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] I need a few people to run a bandwidth test
tomeplease...> As they say, your mileage may vary....   We have a 2xT1 that
we pay $560
>   
>> per month for, and the routing/peering at TW Telecom is good, but then
>> again, we are in the San Francisco Bay Area. If the building owners
>> would have let TW Telecom into this buildings MPOE's we would have a 10
>> meg fiber circuit and be paying about $700 for it. The fiber is at the
>> curb, but Bishop Ranch won't let TW Telecom in....
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> Matt Liotta wrote:
>>     
>>> Personally, I wouldn't go with TW Telecom for bandwidth. They tend to
>>> be overly pricy and their peering is too selective. In a case where
>>> the city you are located in doesn't have good peering such as Orlando
>>> you need to carefully select your upstream. In the case of TW Telecom,
>>> they have hardly any peers in Atlanta, which is the closest major
>>> peering point to you. This causes most of your US based traffic to
>>> flow through Ashburn or Dallas.
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>>
>>> On May 14, 2009, at 9:48 PM, Scott Carullo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Just download a file via http from our web server at
>>>> http://208.65.55.55/dummy.zip
>>>> and then
>>>> http://64.128.251.33/dummy.zip
>>>>
>>>> Then email me with how fast each went and a traceroute from you to
>>>> just one
>>>> of the servers please (they take same route).
>>>>
>>>> If you are not capable of downloading at 20MB on the Internet then
>>>> the data
>>>> is not too useful for me...
>>>>
>>>> Thank you I appreciate your time and assistance.
>>>>
>>>> Scott Carullo
>>>> Brevard Wireless
>>>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>>>
>>>>
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