My sector's are Maxrad adjustable sector's horizontally polarized, 
adjusted to 120/13db, at 7.7 - 7.8 downtilt, trying to cover a 5 mile 
radius.
Radios, are Ubiquity 400mw radio's, I've turned down to 23/200mw.
CPE's, are Ubiquity PS2, same radio at 400mw, Horizontal antenna at 18 dbi.

RSSI at the CPE is great, RSSI at the AP is poor often different by 
16-20 db.

I also mentioned the RFLinx Qwave lightning arrestors, this is the first 
tower we've used them on.

Regards
Michael Baird

> I don't think that this would be an antenna location issue.
>
> What antennas did you use and where are they pointed?
>
> Also, what output are the radios?  If you use 600mw radios on the ap side 
> and 100 mw radios on the rx side it'll make a difference.
>
> Also, having LOW power at the tx is almost always a good idea, especially 
> when colocated like this.  I usually only run 15 to 17dB at the ap's.  Most 
> of my sectors are 13dB.  Yeah, I have customers at 18 miles with multi meg 
> RELIABLE service this way.  There are other customers at much shorter ranges 
> that don't get reliable service, but that's caused by other issues :-).
>
> We run most of our cpe at pretty high power these days due to the need to 
> blow through the overpowered competition or just over all noise levels.
>
> Anyway, what gain are the antennas and where are they pointed?  How much 
> downtilt etc.
>
> How far are the customers from the tower?
>
> What polarity are the antennas?  All the same, or did you mix it up?
>
> What are the cpe radios?  What power, what antennas etc.
>
> If you had a 15 db transmit antenna and a 15 db transmit radio shooting to a 
> 15 dB panel at 5 miles you should see an rssi of, -83 or so.  Legally you 
> could have 6 more dB at the AP side giving you around -77 at the cpe 5 miles 
> out.
>
> Hope this helps!
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> To: <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:09 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Radio Seperation
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>   
>> We've just installed a 3 sector 2.4 setup, at 145' with maxrad 120's. I'm 
>> noticing the receive sensitivity on the AP's are about 15-20 db's 
>> different then what I see on the CPE's, tried a Tranzeo/Ubiquity radio. 
>> I'm using Ubiquity AP's, and they work fine on another 3 sector setup I 
>> have, however this tower is an A-Frame. The tower owner won't allow 
>> outside climbers so his guy did it, and he put one on each leg at 145' 
>> back to back. If the radios were too close together even on different 
>> channels, would the RX performance on the AP exhibit this behavior? Only 
>> other change on this tower was RFLinx Quarter-wave arrestors in line.
>>
>> If I'm 3-5 miles away I can see on the CPE a RSSI of -65 to -75 for 
>> example, on the AP the reading would be in the -90 to not even below the 
>> noise floor.
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated as always.
>>
>> Regards
>> Michael Baird
>>
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