StarOS doesn't? Huh didn't see that one coming... On 7/1/09, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > WRAP/StarOSv2 > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Josh > Luthman<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> What 802.11 gear doesn't? Tranzeo maybe..? >> >> On 6/30/09, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Thats a great idea! Of course, you gotta have equipment that supports >>> smaller channels. Egads, another items for my "to do list"! >>> Thanks! -RickG >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Josh >>> Luthman<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>> That's assuming you're using 2.4 and 20mhz channels. I feel it is >>>> only wise to use 10 or even 5 mhz channels. >>>> >>>> You drop those laptops that can see the AP and think they can get >>>> service. You cut interference in half and focus the power in half the >>>> bandwidth (bit more coverage!). You can only use things that can use >>>> the smaller channels. >>>> >>>> On 6/30/09, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> After my last comment on this about the omni, I'm hesitant to give out >>>>> advise but here it goes anyway: >>>>> My worst operating tower is quad-sectored. With 2.4GHz it's best to >>>>> stick with tri-sectors since you only have 3 non-over channels. Just >>>>> my two cents worth... >>>>> -RickG >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Robert >>>>> West<robert.w...@just-micro.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I decided to just upgrade the whole thing and install sector antennas. >>>>>> It'll eventually go that way anyhow. This spot is the farthest out we >>>>>> reach >>>>>> but last week, out of nowhere, the calls started to come in from that >>>>>> area >>>>>> asking about service so I guess a real upgrade is in order. I have a >>>>>> set >>>>>> of >>>>>> 2.4 sector antennas that have been sitting around unused so I guess >>>>>> that >>>>>> can >>>>>> be the home for them. The 5.8 however, any suggestions on that for >>>>>> sector? >>>>>> Again, going into the 600a routerboard, R5H cards. >>>>>> >>>>>> My 2.4ghz sector antennas are 90 degree, so we'll be using 4. If we >>>>>> use >>>>>> 1 >>>>>> card for each sector on the 2.4, then go with 3 antennas for the 5.8 >>>>>> and >>>>>> use >>>>>> our Ubiquiti XR5 for the backhaul, that's going to fill up all 8 slots >>>>>> on >>>>>> the 600a. Never been to that point before, will our 48v POE run this >>>>>> whole >>>>>> thing or should I just add another routerboard for the 5.8 and the >>>>>> backhaul? >>>>>> My head is telling me to just add the board but the wallet is running >>>>>> away >>>>>> from me............ >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Curtis Maurand >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:14 AM >>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Performance >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.radiolabs.com/products/antennas/2.4gig/2.4-aluminum-parabolic.php >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you've got to go 10 miles, then you need gain. >>>>>> From the website. >>>>>> >>>>>> *2.4 GHz 24db Directional Parabolic Grid WiFi Antenna* >>>>>> >>>>>> *The Directional High Gain WiFi Parabolic Grid* WiFi Antenna offers >>>>>> 24dBi gain at the connector and a tight 8 Degree beamwidth. The high >>>>>> gain wifi antenna is an aluminum die cast which is then powder coat >>>>>> painted for added environmental protection. Because of its grid design >>>>>> the antenna offers excellent wind loading characteristics. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael Baird wrote: >>>>>>> Marlon, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not sure what you are saying here. According to the vendors >>>>>>> specificatons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Teletronics 15-124 - 19DB horizontal w/8 degree vertical beamwidth. >>>>>>> Tranzeo TR-24H-120-16 - 16DB horizontal w/6 degree vertical >>>>>>> beamwidth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes it is odd that the Teletronics claims a higher VB, but then again >>>>>>> it, it cost a lot more and should be a better antenna, as I believe >>>>>>> gain >>>>>>> not only comes with narrowing coverage (sector width), but antenna >>>>>>> design. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Michael Baird >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gain only comes from narrowing coverage with antennas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If there are both 120* antennas you can't have HIGHER gain with >>>>>>>> GREATER >>>>>>>> coverage.... It takes half the coverage area go give you twice the >>>>>>>> power >>>>>> >>>>>>>> (3DB of gain). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/antenna/how_to_pick_the_right_antenna.h >>>>>> tm >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> laters, >>>>>>>> marlon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Michael Baird" <m...@tc3net.com> >>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:32 PM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Performance >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not ,the same downtilt angle, same percentage as the old one. The >>>>>>>>> previous antenna was a Tranzeo 16db w/6 degree vertical, the >>>>>>>>> Teletronics >>>>>>>>> 19db has a 8 degree vertical actually larger VB then the 16db at 6. >>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>> are both at .3 degrees downtilt. The only reason I mention the VSWR >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> because the teletronics VSWR is 1.1:4, vs 1.5 on the Tranzeo. The >>>>>>>>> Teletronics is down about 6db on the CPE side for all the clients >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> test sector, on the AP side it's the same. I tested multiple tilt's >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> well, between 0-1 degree was the best on the CPE side. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Michael Baird >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> First thing that comes to my mind reading your post is that you >>>>>> installed >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> higher gain antenna which means your vertical beam is going to be >>>>>>>>>> narrower >>>>>>>>>> (sometimes higher gain is not always better). Being that you >>>>>>>>>> installed >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> antenna with the same down tilt angle your missing the mark >>>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> a narrower vertical beam. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As for the VSWR nothing really considered too low. If your VSWR is >>>>>> higher >>>>>>>>>> then 1.5:1 then you have a problem for sure. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Personally never used or tested TT's 15-124 antenna but have sold >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> few >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> them with no complaints on it as far as I know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Michael Baird >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:33 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Performance >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I picked up a Teletronics 15-124 19db horizontal antenna for >>>>>>>>>> testing >>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> deployed it in place of a Tranzeo 16db Horizontal (TilTek?), using >>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>> pigtail and radio. With the clients on this sector, the AP side is >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> same, but the CPE receive side seems to have suffered with this >>>>>>>>>> larger >>>>>>>>>> antenna. Nothing was changed other then the antenna, aimed to the >>>>>>>>>> exact >>>>>>>>>> same degree, tilted the same percentage of vertical tilt, and so >>>>>>>>>> forth. >>>>>>>>>> I'm thinking the antenna isn't very good, or it's VSWR is too low >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> I'm getting some power reflected from the antenna. Anybody have >>>>>>>>>> experience with this antenna, or these scenarios? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I expected this bigger, more expensive antenna to gain all across >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> board. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Michael Baird >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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