What 802.11 gear doesn't? Tranzeo maybe..? On 6/30/09, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thats a great idea! Of course, you gotta have equipment that supports > smaller channels. Egads, another items for my "to do list"! > Thanks! -RickG > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Josh > Luthman<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> That's assuming you're using 2.4 and 20mhz channels. I feel it is >> only wise to use 10 or even 5 mhz channels. >> >> You drop those laptops that can see the AP and think they can get >> service. You cut interference in half and focus the power in half the >> bandwidth (bit more coverage!). You can only use things that can use >> the smaller channels. >> >> On 6/30/09, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> After my last comment on this about the omni, I'm hesitant to give out >>> advise but here it goes anyway: >>> My worst operating tower is quad-sectored. With 2.4GHz it's best to >>> stick with tri-sectors since you only have 3 non-over channels. Just >>> my two cents worth... >>> -RickG >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Robert West<robert.w...@just-micro.com> >>> wrote: >>>> I decided to just upgrade the whole thing and install sector antennas. >>>> It'll eventually go that way anyhow. This spot is the farthest out we >>>> reach >>>> but last week, out of nowhere, the calls started to come in from that >>>> area >>>> asking about service so I guess a real upgrade is in order. I have a >>>> set >>>> of >>>> 2.4 sector antennas that have been sitting around unused so I guess that >>>> can >>>> be the home for them. The 5.8 however, any suggestions on that for >>>> sector? >>>> Again, going into the 600a routerboard, R5H cards. >>>> >>>> My 2.4ghz sector antennas are 90 degree, so we'll be using 4. If we use >>>> 1 >>>> card for each sector on the 2.4, then go with 3 antennas for the 5.8 and >>>> use >>>> our Ubiquiti XR5 for the backhaul, that's going to fill up all 8 slots >>>> on >>>> the 600a. Never been to that point before, will our 48v POE run this >>>> whole >>>> thing or should I just add another routerboard for the 5.8 and the >>>> backhaul? >>>> My head is telling me to just add the board but the wallet is running >>>> away >>>> from me............ >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Curtis Maurand >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:14 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Performance >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.radiolabs.com/products/antennas/2.4gig/2.4-aluminum-parabolic.php >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If you've got to go 10 miles, then you need gain. >>>> From the website. >>>> >>>> *2.4 GHz 24db Directional Parabolic Grid WiFi Antenna* >>>> >>>> *The Directional High Gain WiFi Parabolic Grid* WiFi Antenna offers >>>> 24dBi gain at the connector and a tight 8 Degree beamwidth. The high >>>> gain wifi antenna is an aluminum die cast which is then powder coat >>>> painted for added environmental protection. Because of its grid design >>>> the antenna offers excellent wind loading characteristics. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Michael Baird wrote: >>>>> Marlon, >>>>> >>>>> Not sure what you are saying here. According to the vendors >>>>> specificatons. >>>>> >>>>> Teletronics 15-124 - 19DB horizontal w/8 degree vertical beamwidth. >>>>> Tranzeo TR-24H-120-16 - 16DB horizontal w/6 degree vertical beamwidth. >>>>> >>>>> Yes it is odd that the Teletronics claims a higher VB, but then again >>>>> it, it cost a lot more and should be a better antenna, as I believe >>>>> gain >>>>> not only comes with narrowing coverage (sector width), but antenna >>>>> design. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Michael Baird >>>>> >>>>>> Gain only comes from narrowing coverage with antennas. >>>>>> >>>>>> If there are both 120* antennas you can't have HIGHER gain with >>>>>> GREATER >>>>>> coverage.... It takes half the coverage area go give you twice the >>>>>> power >>>> >>>>>> (3DB of gain). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/antenna/how_to_pick_the_right_antenna.h >>>> tm >>>>>> >>>>>> laters, >>>>>> marlon >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Michael Baird" <m...@tc3net.com> >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 2:32 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Performance >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Not ,the same downtilt angle, same percentage as the old one. The >>>>>>> previous antenna was a Tranzeo 16db w/6 degree vertical, the >>>>>>> Teletronics >>>>>>> 19db has a 8 degree vertical actually larger VB then the 16db at 6. >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> are both at .3 degrees downtilt. The only reason I mention the VSWR >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> because the teletronics VSWR is 1.1:4, vs 1.5 on the Tranzeo. The >>>>>>> Teletronics is down about 6db on the CPE side for all the clients on >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> test sector, on the AP side it's the same. I tested multiple tilt's >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> well, between 0-1 degree was the best on the CPE side. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Michael Baird >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> First thing that comes to my mind reading your post is that you >>>> installed >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> higher gain antenna which means your vertical beam is going to be >>>>>>>> narrower >>>>>>>> (sometimes higher gain is not always better). Being that you >>>>>>>> installed >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> antenna with the same down tilt angle your missing the mark because >>>>>>>> you >>>> >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> a narrower vertical beam. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for the VSWR nothing really considered too low. If your VSWR is >>>> higher >>>>>>>> then 1.5:1 then you have a problem for sure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally never used or tested TT's 15-124 antenna but have sold a >>>>>>>> few >>>> >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> them with no complaints on it as far as I know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Michael Baird >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 8:33 AM >>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Performance >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I picked up a Teletronics 15-124 19db horizontal antenna for testing >>>> and >>>>>>>> deployed it in place of a Tranzeo 16db Horizontal (TilTek?), using >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> pigtail and radio. With the clients on this sector, the AP side is >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> same, but the CPE receive side seems to have suffered with this >>>>>>>> larger >>>>>>>> antenna. Nothing was changed other then the antenna, aimed to the >>>>>>>> exact >>>>>>>> same degree, tilted the same percentage of vertical tilt, and so >>>>>>>> forth. >>>>>>>> I'm thinking the antenna isn't very good, or it's VSWR is too low >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> I'm getting some power reflected from the antenna. Anybody have >>>>>>>> experience with this antenna, or these scenarios? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I expected this bigger, more expensive antenna to gain all across >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> board. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Michael Baird >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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