Have you checked to make sure the competitor isn't also using 5.8 at that
same location?  If it was my luck, I'd go through the motions only to find
out they were also pointing a 5ghz at me as well.



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Steve Barnes
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance

I have a 2.4 sector that has terrible interference from a competitor
pointing right at it and I am considering changing it to 5.8.  With a 17dBi
120 degree sector what should the effective distance I can hope to achieve?
I can get 6 mile Off of another sector on this same tower with 2.4.

Steve Barnes
Manager
PCS-WIN<http://www.pcswin.com/>
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service<http://www.rcwifi.com/>

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Webster
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:26 AM
To: li...@stlbroadband.com
Cc: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....

That point was actually clarified on the FAQ list posted.

Thank You,
Brian Webster



St. Louis Broadband wrote:
Humm, not what I am reading into it.
Lol, maybe I have read it too many times...  ;-)


Victoria Proffer
www.StLouisBroadband.com<http://www.StLouisBroadband.com>
314-974-5600

From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:41 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: li...@stlbroadband.com<mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....

It's really 40% of the homes passed by the applicants designated service
area. Same rules apply for the percentage of households who have access to
broadband. The percentage is calculated over the area designated by the
applicant as their complete project area. The only real chance you have to
challenge is on the applications that come in as unserved, but even then the
RUS and NTIA have said they will reserve the right to then convert that
application to an underserved one.


Thank You,
Brian Webster




RickG wrote:

Is that 40% of homes passed or 40% of LOS?



On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:40 AM, St. Louis

Broadband<li...@stlbroadband.com><mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com> wrote:



They will be posted, for 30 days, on the NTIA site during their "due

diligence" phase.

Any ISP that contests will have to provide the proof that they have a 40%

take rate.





Victoria Proffer

www.StLouisBroadband.com<http://www.StLouisBroadband.com>

314-974-5600



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On

Behalf Of RickG

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:08 PM

To: WISPA General List

Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....



And on that note, where can you find a list of applications?

-RickG



On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Mike
Hammett<wispawirel...@ics-il.net><mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>

wrote:



If someone comes in and undercuts you, it's your fault for not protesting

their application.





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Mike Hammett

Intelligent Computing Solutions

http://www.ics-il.com







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From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com><mailto:k...@wavelinc.com>

Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:51 AM

To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org><mailto:wireless@wispa.org>

Subject: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW.....





Yesterday there was a broadband stimulus seminar in Columbus, OH



featuring



Senator Sherrod Brown, ConnectOhio.org, USDA Rural Development. I went

with

an open mind and left not wanting anything to do with this "free money"



to



be had.







The government is trying to get as much control out of the ISP's that



take



this money as they possibly can. The reporting requirements for ISP's



that



take this money is a huge burden. This makes FCC Form 477 look like a



walk



in the park compared to what they want to know. There are about 30-50

things

that they want you to report on and some of it is just crazy. I can't



list



it all but they basically want to know what brand of toilet paper and how

much of it you use per customer.. And this will apply to your entire

existing infrastructure that was in place before you took the money.







They can come in and look at all your confidential records anytime they

want. They can even change the rules years down the road and possibly



tell



you what to charge your customer per month to what they think is fair.

They

can also tell you how to do your QoS and what you can and can not block.







This sounds like the same deal with the bank bailouts from last year that

once they took the money and found out what role the government wanted to

do

with them that they wanted to give it all back but wasn't allowed. The

majority of the attendees once we got into the workshops and started

talking

among each other was that they don't want anything to do with this money

at

all either once they found out all the hidden strings attached to it.







They are encouraging few larger projects than many smaller ones. I asked

them what about the area that already has 2-3 fixed wireless ISP's and if

they give the money to a very large outfit that comes into the area and

undercuts the smaller guys by $5/month and runs them out of business if

that

could happen and they said it probably would. I said well you just killed

3

small businesses to create a larger one what the heck did you just

accomplish that for and they just gave me a blank stare like I was crazy.







This is not about getting broadband internet to un-served/underserved

area's, this entire stimulus is about the government trying to gain as

much

control as they possibly can into the ISP business..







I'm going to start running ads saying "go with us, we refused to take the

stimulus money."



















Kurt Fankhauser

WAVELINC

P.O. Box 126

Bucyrus, OH 44820

419-562-6405

www.wavelinc.com<http://www.wavelinc.com>























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