17dB 120* sector? That's wayyyyy too high of a gain. The vertical on that can't be much more than what, 4 or 5*?
When the noise is low I can pull 2+ megs at 18 miles. Easy. With LESS than legal power on each end. 2.4 gig. I don't know at 5.8. My longest is probably an lavation 90* sector. I've not measured it, but it's near 12 or 15 miles, ptmp. Customer pulled nearly 3 megs by 2 megs. Very close to the theoretical max for the hardware used. laters, marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Barnes" <st...@pcswin.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:59 AM Subject: [WISPA] 5.8 Distance >I have a 2.4 sector that has terrible interference from a competitor >pointing right at it and I am considering changing it to 5.8. With a 17dBi >120 degree sector what should the effective distance I can hope to achieve? >I can get 6 mile Off of another sector on this same tower with 2.4. > > Steve Barnes > Manager > PCS-WIN<http://www.pcswin.com/> > RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service<http://www.rcwifi.com/> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Brian Webster > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:26 AM > To: li...@stlbroadband.com > Cc: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW..... > > That point was actually clarified on the FAQ list posted. > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > > St. Louis Broadband wrote: > Humm, not what I am reading into it. > Lol, maybe I have read it too many times... ;-) > > > Victoria Proffer > www.StLouisBroadband.com<http://www.StLouisBroadband.com> > 314-974-5600 > > From: Brian Webster [mailto:bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:41 AM > To: WISPA General List > Cc: li...@stlbroadband.com<mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW..... > > It's really 40% of the homes passed by the applicants designated service > area. Same rules apply for the percentage of households who have access to > broadband. The percentage is calculated over the area designated by the > applicant as their complete project area. The only real chance you have to > challenge is on the applications that come in as unserved, but even then > the RUS and NTIA have said they will reserve the right to then convert > that application to an underserved one. > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > > > RickG wrote: > > Is that 40% of homes passed or 40% of LOS? > > > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:40 AM, St. Louis > > Broadband<li...@stlbroadband.com><mailto:li...@stlbroadband.com> wrote: > > > > They will be posted, for 30 days, on the NTIA site during their "due > > diligence" phase. > > Any ISP that contests will have to provide the proof that they have a 40% > > take rate. > > > > > > Victoria Proffer > > www.StLouisBroadband.com<http://www.StLouisBroadband.com> > > 314-974-5600 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of RickG > > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:08 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW..... > > > > And on that note, where can you find a list of applications? > > -RickG > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Mike > Hammett<wispawirel...@ics-il.net><mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > > wrote: > > > > If someone comes in and undercuts you, it's your fault for not protesting > > their application. > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com><mailto:k...@wavelinc.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:51 AM > > To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org><mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > > Subject: [WISPA] just attended broadband stimulus seminar and WOW..... > > > > > > Yesterday there was a broadband stimulus seminar in Columbus, OH > > > > featuring > > > > Senator Sherrod Brown, ConnectOhio.org, USDA Rural Development. I went > > with > > an open mind and left not wanting anything to do with this "free money" > > > > to > > > > be had. > > > > > > > > The government is trying to get as much control out of the ISP's that > > > > take > > > > this money as they possibly can. The reporting requirements for ISP's > > > > that > > > > take this money is a huge burden. This makes FCC Form 477 look like a > > > > walk > > > > in the park compared to what they want to know. There are about 30-50 > > things > > that they want you to report on and some of it is just crazy. I can't > > > > list > > > > it all but they basically want to know what brand of toilet paper and how > > much of it you use per customer.. And this will apply to your entire > > existing infrastructure that was in place before you took the money. > > > > > > > > They can come in and look at all your confidential records anytime they > > want. They can even change the rules years down the road and possibly > > > > tell > > > > you what to charge your customer per month to what they think is fair. > > They > > can also tell you how to do your QoS and what you can and can not block. > > > > > > > > This sounds like the same deal with the bank bailouts from last year that > > once they took the money and found out what role the government wanted to > > do > > with them that they wanted to give it all back but wasn't allowed. The > > majority of the attendees once we got into the workshops and started > > talking > > among each other was that they don't want anything to do with this money > > at > > all either once they found out all the hidden strings attached to it. > > > > > > > > They are encouraging few larger projects than many smaller ones. I asked > > them what about the area that already has 2-3 fixed wireless ISP's and if > > they give the money to a very large outfit that comes into the area and > > undercuts the smaller guys by $5/month and runs them out of business if > > that > > could happen and they said it probably would. I said well you just killed > > 3 > > small businesses to create a larger one what the heck did you just > > accomplish that for and they just gave me a blank stare like I was crazy. > > > > > > > > This is not about getting broadband internet to un-served/underserved > > area's, this entire stimulus is about the government trying to gain as > > much > > control as they possibly can into the ISP business.. > > > > > > > > I'm going to start running ads saying "go with us, we refused to take the > > stimulus money." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kurt Fankhauser > > WAVELINC > > P.O. 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