The solar panels look just like the $79.00 Northern ones.  I am 
curious how they built the "PVC" frame.  Not a bad deal considering 
it also has the controller *AND* an inverter you could keep in the 
truck to power your laptop charger.  60 watts is probably overkill 
for most of our applications except Marlon's.  :-)

You could even wire the four of them series/parallel to get 24V for a 
long CAT5 run.

This stuff has really come down in price the past few months thanks 
to the Northern/Home Depot/Harbor Freight Chinese importers.

This IS a deal maker for those remote repeater sites some of us have 
been contemplating.  Yes Marlon, you CAN solar power a site for less 
than $500.00 if you're willing to do some creative work.  Gotta love it.


At 08:43 AM 8/26/2009, you wrote:

>Home depot's site.  go figure.  $329 a Solar Back Up Kit (as they call
>it.)  60 Watts.  $329
>
>http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100658288
>
>
>Mike wrote:
> > It depends on how high you push it up.  I *HAVE* had it all the way
> > up with a 12" panel, low wind condition, one person on the ground and
> > the other sitting on the gable end of a roof for testing.  The top
> > two sections get a little wispy (pun intended) for big panels, or to
> > leave up.  I regularly put it 20' - 26' and leave it with a panel attached.
> >
> > They sell a drive-on mount with a socket for holding it.  I just
> > mounted mine through the trailer side with one of those nice alloy
> > dish mounts so I can rotate it to about 45 degrees for
> > transport.  When I set it up, I rotate upright, put the end into a
> > socket I made from one of those floor PVC toilet bowl
> > flanges.  Eyeball along a building or vertical surface in two planes
> > and you get the whole thing somewhat vertical.  Above the mount, on
> > the side of the trailer, I put two stainless eye bolts.  Once I get
> > the mast vertical, I put a custom fitted piece of wood with an arc
> > cut in the end to fit the pole, between the pole and trailer and lash
> > it with a bungy cord.  Gives it a third attachment point along the
> > trailer side; ground, middle, near the top.  It's raining pretty hard
> > right now or I'd take a picture.
> >
> > I can set it up on Friday in about 20 minutes at the market.
> >
> >
> > At 08:03 AM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
> >
> >> Would the wonder pole handle a wind load of an NS2/Canopy?  What about a
> >> massive Arc MT combo?
> >>
> >> How do you mount the base?  Can this be made mobile/temporary?
> >>
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> >> improbable, must be the truth."
> >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:55 AM, ralph <ralphli...@bsrg.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Were you speaking of the pneumatic mast in my pics, or of the 
> wonder pole?
> >>>
> >>> Mine is a Wil-burt  or Wilburt and they cost a bunch- like $5,000.00 new.
> >>> But since the DTV rollout is complete, there should be surplus ENG trucks
> >>> around with these masts.
> >>> The TV stations started keeping their old trucks to use for testing. I
> >>> actually had one given to me complete with pole and generator.
> >>> I could not go get it and the station decided to keep it for DTV testing.
> >>> Call around to your local stations and ask about "surplus ENG trucks".
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >>> Behalf Of Mike
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:40 AM
> >>> To: WISPA General List
> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site
> >>>
> >>> I'd love to add that to my trailer.  What is the make?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At 11:36 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> That sounds like great public service and a way to get recognized too!
> >>>>
> >>>> If you want to see something that really gets attention, have 
> a look at my
> >>>> site survey/portable AP rig.
> >>>> http://ralphfowler.com
> >>>> I have been reluctant to put signs on it though, for obvious reasons.
> >>>> (people already think I am toting a rocket launcher) LOL
> >>>>  Ralph
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >>>> Behalf Of Mike
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:57 PM
> >>>> To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List
> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site
> >>>>
> >>>> This particular setup is mounted to a 4 x 6 x 4 Wells Cargo enclosed
> >>>> trailer.  I painted it bright white and added my logo and on one side
> >>>> Solar Powered Wireless.  I park it at events and provide free
> >>>> WiFi.  I park it downtown every Friday for Farmers Market and the
> >>>> name recognition has been outstanding.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have a 40 foot Wonder Pole mounted to the side I swing into
> >>>> position and hoist a Deliberant panel up.  Inside the trailer I have
> >>>> a Deliberant AP2i doing DHCP and giving out access.  I don't push the
> >>>> pole up farther than 15 or 20 feet for events, but will run it all
> >>>> the way up for site surveys on occasion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Both radios pull less than an Amp total and the system supplies 2.5
> >>>> Amp in good sun.  The 800 Amp hour battery will run it for 800 hours?
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>> At 08:04 PM 8/25/2009, you wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Interesting. What radios are you powering this with?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scottie
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>>>> From: Mike <m...@aweiowa.com>
> >>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> >>>>> Date:  Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:50:14 -0500
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I bought two of the Northern Tool $79.00 15 watt panels, their $49.00
> >>>>>> charge controller, a deep cycle marine battery from Walmart and built
> >>>>>> my own.  So far, the "fully charged" light comes on every day.  The
> >>>>>> battery should run my two radio repeater for more than a week.  Might
> >>>>>> not be the club way to do it, but it works.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At 11:09 PM 8/24/2009, you wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sorry for the cross post.  Time is short on this project and I
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> need a lot of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> help.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I've never done a solar project.  Never really even looked at them
> >>>>>>>
> >>> due
> >>>
> >>>> to
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> the costs I've seen tossed about.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now I have a customer that's willing to purchase the initial
> >>>>>>>
> >>> equipment
> >>>
> >>>>>>> needed to cover his community.  The ONLY way into the area is a hill
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> that's
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> within sight of my tower and NOT anywhere near power.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll be able to just run a single MT board with two radios in it for
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> this
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> site.  One backhaul and 1 distribution.  I'll guess that I'll
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>> have less than
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> a 2 amp draw (probably much less than 1 amp in reality).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We don't often get long periods of no sun.  Could be days of fog or
> >>>>>>>
> >>> low
> >>>
> >>>>>>> clouds in the winter, but mostly we'll have a lot of sun.  On the
> >>>>>>>
> >>> foggy
> >>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> cloudy days we often don't have enough wind to worry about wind
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> generation.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> I think.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So, please clue me in on what to buy, who to buy it from (vendors
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> welcome!)
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> and anything else I'm missing.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks all!
> >>>>>>> marlon
> >>>>>>>
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