Here is the graph straight from the charge monitor for our solar panels, 
to give you an idea what the charging pattern looks like.   This is for 
a pair of 60w panels.

http://www.thelar.com/gallery2/v/Wireless/Hogback/graph_image1.png.html

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com

Christopher Erickson wrote:
> First, the Sun never shines 24 hours in a day unless you are above
> the Arctic circle.  And even then, that only happens for a few days
> of the year.
>
> Second, there isn't much charging going on when the Sun is near the
> horizon, which is most of the time when in Northern latitudes.
>
> For example, an 80 watt panel will NEVER output 80 watts in Anchorage,
> Alaska because even at solar noon in the summer, the Sun is only
> around 60 degrees up in the sky.  And below about 25 degrees, there
> isn't any charging going on at all.
>
> So anyway think of an amperage sine wave that builds up in the morning,
> peaks at solar noon and then diminishes in the afternoon.
>
> The math is more complicated than it first appears.
>
> "My advice is always free and worth every penny!"
>
> -Christopher Erickson
> Network Design Engineer
> 5432 E. Northern Lights Blvd., Suite 529
> Anchorage, AK 99508
>
>
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on
>> Behalf Of Mike
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:06 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar site
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure I buy into your math.  If I have a repeater site that is 
>> pulling 1A @ 12V, then it is consuming something like 12W, right?  If 
>> I have 60W of solar panel (2 toys) then when conditions are optimal, 
>> I have 48W left over to charge the battery.
>>
>> Lets say I am REALLY north, and the panels are only producing 45W.  I 
>> still am consuming 12W with the radios, and have 33W left over to 
>> charge the battery.  If I have an 800AH battery 24 Hours of sun will 
>> run the radios AND fully charge the battery.  If the sun shines 24 
>> hours out of 33.3 days, I will stay ahead of the curve and the 
>> battery will stay charged.
>>
>> No sun for 33.3 days and my 800AH battery will finally die.  I NEVER 
>> see those conditions here in the midwest.  I'll still maintain you 
>> can do a repeater site for $500 in solar power costs and if you 
>> monitor battery condition it will work just fine.
>>
>> At 09:54 PM 8/26/2009, you wrote:
>>     
>>> Here in the north, I wouldn't bother with anything less than 100w of
>>> panel.
>>>       
>>
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