I think Google should invent a website speed test app like they did for torrents - http://www.measurementlab.net/
What do people care most about online? The web (AKA "the internet"). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote: > Hi Victoria, > > The FCC Workship "1 Mbps" statement is very, very generalized. It's nothing > to get upset about. > > If we want the FCC to update their knowledge about WISPs then we need to > educate the FCC. We DO educate them with every FCC filing and presentation > that we make. In the last year, we've made about a dozen written filings > plus an in-person presentations to four of the five previous FCC > Commissioners and to the FCC OET staff. Keep in mind that everything we > write or present becomes a part of the public record. > > WISPA's FCC Committee is working on writing and filing FCC Comments right > now, at this very moment. This filing is in response to an FCC "Notice of > Inquiry" (NOI) about "advanced telecommunications services" and "broadband". > The NOI asks whether broadband is being deployed to all Americans in a > reasonable and timely fashion. The NOI asks five "core questions". > > (1) How should we define “advanced telecommunications capability” or > “broadband?” *(NOTE: The FCC is asking about "speed" here)* > > (2) Is broadband available to all Americans? > > (3) Is the current level of broadband deployment reasonable and timely? > > (4) What actions, if any, should the Commission take to accelerate > broadband deployment? > > (5) What actions should the Commission take to improve its regular > broadband data collection efforts? > > We've got to be a little careful about how we ask the FCC to define > broadband because: > > 1. If we set the bar too high, for example by saying that "broadband" is 5 > Mbps or more then we risk excluding WISPs who do not provide at least 5 > Mbps. They may not be eligible for funding or may not even be considered > legitimate WISPs. > > 2. Some WISPs do not understand the difference between "raw" data rate and > actual throughput and we don't want one WISP's lack of understanding to > distort the FCC's definitions of "broadband". > > 3. Some WISPs do not understand that throughput is shared between all of > the active customers on an AP at any given moment. Even if an AP is capable > of delivering 10 Mbps of actual throughput, when 30 customers are active > then less than 333k (10 Meg divided by 30) is available to each customer, > sometimes far less. We don't want to let the fact that available throughput > per customer is usually less than the maximum single-customer throughput to > distort the FCC's definition of "broadband". > > In conclusion, I think it's better to let the FCC set the broadband "bar" a > little low so we have a chance to demonstrate that we can sometimes exceed > it rather than let some WISP who is bragging about speeds that he may or may > actually be able to deliver cause the FCC to set the broadband "bar" too > high so that the FCC writes unrealistic regulations (or the NITA and RUS > originate unrealistic grant programs) that either ignore or exclude the > needs of the majority of WISPs. > > Jack Unger > Chair - WISPA FCC Committee > > > St. Louis Broadband wrote: > > They are not getting it from my form 477. > The only 1 Mbps service we offer is upload and that is with a 5 Mbps > download. > > Victoria > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On > Behalf Of Jason Hensley > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:01 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps > > Hmm, so I guess my 10Mbps down and 8mbps up wireless links (yes, to > customers) don't count???? > > My guess, though, is that they're pulling this data from the 477 and making > assumptions based on that. Most of our customers are 1.5Mbps or less > customers so looking at the "raw" 477 data then yes, it would appear that we > may not be doing much more than the 1.5meg. > > Interesting... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org > <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On > Behalf Of Lists > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:54 AM > To: 'WISPA General List' > Subject: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps > > This really ticks me off: > > > > "Wireless broadband Internet access services offered over fixed networks > allow consumers to access the Internet from a fixed point while stationary > > and often require a direct line-of-sight between the wireless transmitter > and receiver. These services have been offered using both licensed spectrum > > and unlicensed devices. For example, thousands of small Wireless Internet > Services Providers (WISPs) provide such wireless broadband at speeds of > > around one Mbps using unlicensed devices, often in rural areas not served by > cable or wireline broadband networks." > http://www.broadband.gov/broadband_types.html > > > > I talked to them at the NTIA workshop in Memphis about this, but they are > still defaming our industry. > > I have emailed them at the broadband.gov site and think it is a good idea > that they hear from more of us. > > > > Thanks! > > Victoria Proffer - President/CEO > > StLouisBroadband.com <http://stlbroadband.com/> <http://stlbroadband.com/> > > <http://showmebroadband.com/> <http://showmebroadband.com/> > ShowMeBroadband.com > > Rural Missouri Wireless Project. > > 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 > > Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband > > SBA Certified WOSB > > STLBBLogo > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > WISPA Wants You! 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