PC Magazine has one.  I have asked them to make a troubleshooting version 
for ISPs to use in improving their network, but no response.  The author 
can't because PC Mag owns it.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:22 AM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps

> I think Google should invent a website speed test app like they did for
> torrents - http://www.measurementlab.net/
>
> What do people care most about online?  The web (AKA "the internet").
>
> Josh Luthman
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> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Victoria,
>>
>> The FCC Workship "1 Mbps" statement is very, very generalized. It's 
>> nothing
>> to get upset about.
>>
>> If we want the FCC to update their knowledge about WISPs then we need to
>> educate the FCC. We DO educate them with every FCC filing and 
>> presentation
>> that we make. In the last year, we've made about a dozen written filings
>> plus an in-person presentations to four of the five previous FCC
>> Commissioners and to the FCC OET staff. Keep in mind that everything we
>> write or present becomes a part of the public record.
>>
>> WISPA's FCC Committee is working on writing and filing FCC Comments right
>> now, at this very moment. This filing is in response to an FCC "Notice of
>> Inquiry" (NOI) about "advanced telecommunications services" and 
>> "broadband".
>> The NOI asks whether broadband is being deployed to all Americans in a
>> reasonable and timely fashion. The NOI asks five "core questions".
>>
>> (1) How should we define “advanced telecommunications capability” or
>> “broadband?” *(NOTE:  The FCC is asking about "speed" here)*
>>
>> (2) Is broadband available to all Americans?
>>
>> (3) Is the current level of broadband deployment reasonable and timely?
>>
>> (4) What actions, if any, should the Commission take to accelerate
>> broadband deployment?
>>
>> (5) What actions should the Commission take to improve its regular
>> broadband data collection efforts?
>>
>> We've got to be a little careful about how we ask the FCC to define
>> broadband because:
>>
>> 1. If we set the bar too high, for example by saying that "broadband" is 
>> 5
>> Mbps or more then we risk excluding WISPs who do not provide at least 5
>> Mbps. They may not be eligible for funding or may not even be considered
>> legitimate WISPs.
>>
>> 2. Some WISPs do not understand the difference between "raw" data rate 
>> and
>> actual throughput and we don't want one WISP's lack of understanding to
>> distort the FCC's definitions of "broadband".
>>
>> 3. Some WISPs do not understand that throughput is shared between all of
>> the active customers on an AP at any given moment. Even if an AP is 
>> capable
>> of delivering 10 Mbps of actual throughput, when 30 customers are active
>> then less than 333k (10 Meg divided by 30) is available to each customer,
>> sometimes far less. We don't want to let the fact that available 
>> throughput
>> per customer is usually less than the maximum single-customer throughput 
>> to
>> distort the FCC's definition of "broadband".
>>
>> In conclusion, I think it's better to let the FCC set the broadband "bar" 
>> a
>> little low so we have a chance to demonstrate that we can sometimes 
>> exceed
>> it rather than let some WISP who is bragging about speeds that he may or 
>> may
>> actually be able to deliver cause the FCC to set the broadband "bar" too
>> high so that the FCC writes unrealistic regulations (or the NITA and RUS
>> originate unrealistic grant programs) that either ignore or exclude the
>> needs of the majority of WISPs.
>>
>> Jack Unger
>> Chair - WISPA FCC Committee
>>
>>
>> St. Louis Broadband wrote:
>>
>> They are not getting it from my form 477.
>> The only 1 Mbps service we offer is upload and that is with a 5 Mbps
>> download.
>>
>> Victoria
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
>> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On
>> Behalf Of Jason Hensley
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:01 AM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps
>>
>> Hmm, so I guess my 10Mbps down and 8mbps up wireless links (yes, to
>> customers) don't count????
>>
>> My guess, though, is that they're pulling this data from the 477 and 
>> making
>> assumptions based on that.  Most of our customers are 1.5Mbps or less
>> customers so looking at the "raw" 477 data then yes, it would appear that 
>> we
>> may not be doing much more than the 1.5meg.
>>
>> Interesting...
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
>> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On
>> Behalf Of Lists
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:54 AM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps
>>
>> This really ticks me off:
>>
>>
>>
>> "Wireless broadband Internet access services offered over fixed networks
>> allow consumers to access the Internet from a fixed point while 
>> stationary
>>
>>  and often require a direct line-of-sight between the wireless 
>> transmitter
>> and receiver. These services have been offered using both licensed 
>> spectrum
>>
>> and unlicensed devices. For example, thousands of small Wireless Internet
>> Services Providers (WISPs) provide such wireless broadband at speeds of
>>
>> around one Mbps using unlicensed devices, often in rural areas not served 
>> by
>> cable or wireline broadband networks."
>> http://www.broadband.gov/broadband_types.html
>>
>>
>>
>> I talked to them at the NTIA workshop in Memphis about this, but they are
>> still defaming our industry.
>>
>> I have emailed them at the broadband.gov site and think it is a good idea
>> that they hear from more of us.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Victoria Proffer  - President/CEO
>>
>> StLouisBroadband.com <http://stlbroadband.com/> 
>> <http://stlbroadband.com/>
>>
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>> ShowMeBroadband.com
>>
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>>
>> 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756
>>
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