Which was my point :) On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:57 AM, <e...@wisp-router.com> wrote: > Correct. If the wavelength was different then it wouldn't be 900MHz. You can > break physics. > > /Eje > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> > > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:42:17 > To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question > > > Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. > Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless > someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. > > On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Paul > Rice<paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com> wrote: >> heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question >> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul >>> Rice<paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com> wrote: >>>> Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle >>>> approx >>>> 13 inches long >>> >>> I knew that but couldnt figure out why you specified "horizontal". I >>> guess you might have said Folks like 900 MHz due to the size of the >>> wave cycle approx 13 inches long. >>> >>> Thanks! -RickG >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Paul >>> Rice<paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com> wrote: >>>> same size. The electromagnetic wave is the same, polarity refers to the >>>> orientation of the wave. up and down or side to side. >>>> 13 inches is the wavelength (length of a single cycle). >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question >>>> >>>>> The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul >>>>> Rice<paul.r...@boomerang-networks.com> wrote: >>>>>> Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle >>>>>> approx >>>>>> 13 inches long >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question >>>>>> >>>>>>> But look at all the experience you are gaining :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert >>>>>>> West<robert.w...@just-micro.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to >>>>>>>> 900mhz >>>>>>>> and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> what I'm not supposed to do. But, also as my luck runs, the opposite >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> what I try first will work So it actually won't matter what I do >>>>>>>> including >>>>>>>> sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never >>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> first time out. :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Tim Edwards >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM >>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> my experience. >>>>>>>> Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> least with the NorCal >>>>>>>> foliage we have here. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> tim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>>>>>> Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer t...@telescience.net >>>>>>>> TeleScience Networks http://telescience.net >>>>>>>> 11101 Hiway 1, #102 415-663-8891 >>>>>>>> Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375 >>>>>>>> =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg wrote: >>>>>>>>> I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>> than MikroTik/XR9. I have a few hundred on Trango and it works >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>> imo than XR9's. Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would >>>>>>>>> prefer >>>>>>>>> their 900MHz option. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Chuck Hogg >>>>>>>>> Shelby Broadband >>>>>>>>> 502-722-9292 >>>>>>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>>>>>>>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Robert West >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM >>>>>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List' >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> 2.5 >>>>>>>>> mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 >>>>>>>>> miles >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> that running right over a creek. Doing it on the cheap, or trying >>>>>>>>> to. >>>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>>> 2 Mikrotik 411 boards on both sides running a transparent bridge >>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>> XR9 >>>>>>>>> cards attached to a pac wireless grid antenna setup with horizontal >>>>>>>>> polarity. The antennas are up and the boxes are configured, just >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>> to go >>>>>>>>> out tonight or tomorrow and run power to them and try to see what >>>>>>>>> kind >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> throughput we can get, if any. Haven't tried it before but we'll >>>>>>>>> see. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bob- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Patrick D. 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