Can we send pics to this list? I noticed on most poles between power  
and nonpower lines there is a plastic looking black ring wrapped  
around the pole. Is this a marker of sort for seperation?

John Buwa
Michiana Wireless,Inc
574-233-7170
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On Sep 9, 2009, at 8:51 PM, AJ <aj.grant...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The work we do with Idaho Power here requires us to be 30" below the  
> lowest
> conductor (grounded neutral in our case) from power and 40" from the  
> lowest
> primary distribution. However, if triplex is coming off the pole  
> (secondary
> single phase 120/240v from transformer to house, basically the power  
> drop),
> we have to be 40" below the attachment point of the secondary and  
> 30" apart
> at the lowest sag point mid-span.
>
> The 40" applies to basically primary below 13kv... Above 13kv, i.e.  
> 14.4kv
> or 24.94 kv, we have to be at least 43" below the lowest primary  
> conductor
> or any part of the insulator of the conductor at a cross arm.
>
> As far as attachment at the pole, we're required to maintain 12"  
> between the
> centers of the attachment bolts between CATV, Phone and any other
> communications provider, i.e. point to point fiber, alarm,  
> government fiber,
> etc. Any amplifier or other device on the line, including drip loops  
> on
> hardline coax, have to maintain 6" clearance from any other  
> communications
> cable.
>
> With that being said, for new attachments with ice loading, we have to
> maintain the lowest possible sag of 15' 6" which leaves us at  
> between 17'
> and 19' AGL at the attachment. Combine this is a transformer and  
> residential
> triplex drop leaves you with three, sometimes less, eligible  
> communications
> attachments on the majority of the shorter 45' and 55' poles.
>
> In some of our more crowded corridors, we've gone to cross arms  
> where we can
> load up 4 to 6 utilities horizontally rather than vertically,  
> however, this
> is usually to compensate for sag at mid span or too short of a pole  
> for 6
> attachments to begin with.
>
> You're looking for NESC Joint Use with is between sections 230 and  
> 238 I
> believe...
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Sales <sa...@michianawireless.com>  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Does anyone know exactly what the nesc codes for fiber on poles are?
>> We have a run that we want to do and the poles are kinda crowded. The
>> electric company told us the phone company has to stay on bottom and
>> there has to be certain gaps. If they have to move people up to make
>> room they may need to replace poles at our cost. He said we can be  
>> the
>> judge for free if we follow nesc codes and estimate if we can find a
>> gap anywhere. So what exactly are we looking for ?
>>
>>
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