> Yup.  We pay almost 800 bucks for 20/20 meg.  To not do any shaping we would

Thats cheap compared to what we pay!  You are paying about $40 a meg.
Is that tier1 bandwidth?  We are paying about $100 meg for tier1.

Matt

> have to charge way more than anyone will pay.  Take the 800 bucks split by
> 20 then add overhead costs and it's too much to bear.  Bandwidth that will
> handle 500+ customers with shaping would then, if totally net neutral, only
> go to 20 customers or less.  To be true net neutral is just to pass all the
> traffic through with no touching it.  Reasonable network management, as Josh
> says, is pretty broad in definition.


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