Cogent's bandwidth is actually very high quality bandwidth now, and their 
tech support is great..
Cogent's current problem is their company's internal operational structure 
is a mess and clueless.
Dispute resolution is impossible, and sales reps are powerless to help their 
clients..
(Its a shame, they have some good sales reps over there, that try real hard 
and deserve better.)

But Cogent isn't the low ball transit provider anymore in colos.
Cogent is still one of the lower few for standalone buildings at 100mbps.
But there are lots of Gig-E providers that are cheaper now..

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality


> Cogent? I remember when they offered 1Gb/$3k and the ISPs jumped on it,
> then they bumped it to $6k for 1Gb for ISPs.  I thought they recently
> went to $4/Mb with the "We match any price".  Although I didn't really
> like them when we were doing the servers/datacenter thing years ago,
> they have made some improvements to make themselves attractive.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck Hogg
> Shelby Broadband
> 502-722-9292
> ch...@shelbybb.com
> http://www.shelbybb.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of sa...@jeffcosoho.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:30 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net Neutrality
> Importance: High
>
> $600/mth for 100/100M in the US and EU on a 1GB port.  $7/M if you burst
>
> over 100M.  Basically you get $6/M for committed bandwidth and $7/M over
>
> commitment.
>
> If any of yawl want to send me your address off-list, I will see where
> the nearest POP is.  My house is 33 miles from the data center and loop
> on fiber is $1700/mth.
> Yes, I could shoot it out here but I really like setting on glass.
>
> Jim
>
> Blair Davis wrote:
>> $1600 per 10M here....
>>
>> I'd kill for either of those deals!
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> $1500 for 20 megs here.  Nearly double your cost.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>>> improbable, must be the truth."
>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Yup.  We pay almost 800 bucks for 20/20 meg.  To not do any shaping
> we
>>>>>
>>>> would
>>>>
>>>> Thats cheap compared to what we pay!  You are paying about $40 a
> meg.
>>>> Is that tier1 bandwidth?  We are paying about $100 meg for tier1.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> have to charge way more than anyone will pay.  Take the 800 bucks
> split
>>>>>
>>>> by
>>>>
>>>>> 20 then add overhead costs and it's too much to bear.  Bandwidth
> that
>>>>>
>>>> will
>>>>
>>>>> handle 500+ customers with shaping would then, if totally net
> neutral,
>>>>>
>>>> only
>>>>
>>>>> go to 20 customers or less.  To be true net neutral is just to pass
> all
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> traffic through with no touching it.  Reasonable network
> management, as
>>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
>>>>> says, is pretty broad in definition.
>>>>>
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