But no matter where you area you can always get at least 2 stations on the regular old radio. County or Rap. If they would play it on the same station we could call it crap.
-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops Problems seeing up? On 9/25/09, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote: > I have problems getting even my Sirius radio to work in some parts of > Kentucky! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 7:30 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops > > Come to rural Kentuckyh and see if it works :) > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Jonathan Schmidt > <jeschm...@jeschmidt.com> wrote: >> I have a Nokia E71 and tether it to my laptop via Bluetooth for >> always-on-everywhere. >> >> It's worked everywhere I've been including 20 countries outside the US. >> >> I get 1.35 mbps download virtually everywhere I try it in the US...Texas >> cities, DC, NYC, etc. >> >> Using their MediaNet, it's $10 a month for unlimited use. >> >> How can you compete with that? >> >> . . . J o n a t h a n >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Josh Luthman >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:17 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >> >> I have an AT&T aircard built into my laptop (Thinkpad t500; Ericsson >> f3507g) and if it worked half of the places I try I'd be happy. Many >> places just don't seem offer a strong enough signal and the rest associate >> but never get pppoe operating. There have been a few places where their >> DNS was down, but I got online and used my own DNS. >> >> Don't count on aircards for remote connectivity (or your cell phone for >> data, tethered or not). >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> improbable, must be the truth." >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Robert West >> <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote: >> >>> I usually just sit down and cry for a few minutes, somehow find a way >>> to blame the customer, cry again for a few minutes, etc..... >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:05 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >>> >>> Call the office. Think it out. What else are you going to do? Turn >>> into a brain dead company like Big Cable Co and scramble when things >>> don't work? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >>> improbable, must be the truth." >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Josh Cheney <josh.che...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Of course, if the reason you are at a particular site is because >>> > their connection is down, having the docs online doesn't help all that >> much... >>> > >>> > Robert West wrote: >>> > > I agree. I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every >>> > > install >>> > online >>> > > so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at. Not so for me at >>> > > the >>> > moment. >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- >>> > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org >>> > > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On >>> > > Behalf Of Josh Luthman >>> > > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM >>> > > To: WISPA General List >>> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >>> > > >>> > > Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors (even if >>> > > it's another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the >>> > > resident is >>> > gone. >>> > > Get paperwork that allows you to do so. >>> > > >>> > > Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it >>> > > penetrates >>> the >>> > > wall and the POE. >>> > > >>> > > Josh Luthman >>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> > > 1100 Wayne St >>> > > Suite 1337 >>> > > Troy, OH 45373 >>> > > >>> > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, >>> > > however improbable, must be the truth." >>> > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net < >>> > > jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> inline >>> > >> >>> > >> Mark Nash wrote: >>> > >>> I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even >>> > >>> the >>> least >>> > >>> expensive MPoP? >>> > >> 1 >>> > >> I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not have >>> > >> a >>> > > laptop. >>> > >> They >>> > >> need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I manage >>> > >> it, >>> they >>> > >> have >>> > >> ZERO access to it) >>> > >> >>> > >> The worst someone can do to my network (with out figuring out >>> > >> some >>> > >> user/pass) is >>> > >> to unplug some part of it or otherwise damage hardware. >>> > >> >>> > >>> 2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs >>> > devalues >>> > >> my >>> > >>> business to a prospective buyer. >>> > >> Why? >>> > >> >>> > >>> 3. I've always thought that having many small MPoPs is a problem >>> > >>> for >>> > > tech >>> > >>> support (we have 700 customers and 3 techs...not everyone knows >>> > >>> what >>> > > each >>> > >>> installation looks like or how it's connected necessarily). >>> > >> Documentation! >>> > >> I have found that pictures of >every< install is a must. I have a >>> place >>> > >> where I >>> > >> store everything (other then just my brain!) even tho I am still >>> > >> in >>> the >>> > > one >>> > >> man >>> > >> shop stages with this one. I keep every firmware, every >>> > >> application, >>> > reams >>> > >> of >>> > >> note pads, etc. I distill it down every so often. The one thing I >>> > >> am missing most )and am working on fixing that) is a GOOD network >>> > >> resource map >>> > setup. >>> > >> >>> > >>> I think this is good discussion... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Just because you CAN do it, SHOULD you do it. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Depends on a few factors... >>> > >>> >>> > >>> 1. Do I need/want to make money any which way I can? >>> > >> Yes! =) >>> > >> >>> > >> OK OK, no bank robberies. >>> > >> >>> > >>> 2. How much do I put into a MPoP (battery backup vs. power >>> > >>> outage & >>> no >>> > >>> access to AP if its host is on vacation) >>> > >> Thats easy. How often is power out? I have full site access >>> > >> (roof) and everything is there. I will be adding out door mounted >>> > >> UPS's as it >>> makes >>> > >> sense >>> > >> to. For the most part, when power is out here, everyone is with >> out. >>> In >>> > >> years >>> > >> the only power outage that did not take >everyone< out let us >>> > >> know >>> there >>> > >> was a >>> > >> issue with one of the primary UPS's. APC and it had no idea the >>> battery >>> > > was >>> > >> bad >>> > >> till after the power failed. >>> > >> >>> > >>> 3. Do I plan to sell my business and if I do should I stick to >>> > >> traditional >>> > >>> "inside-the-box" installations? >>> > >> Right now, I do not plan to sell (no way would I get out what I >>> > >> have >>> put >>> > > in >>> > >> time >>> > >> wise). Would I ever sell? Sure its on the table but right now I >>> > >> can >>> not >>> > >> demand >>> > >> the price I would need to move on to bigger/better projects. I >>> > >> expect >>> > that >>> > >> to >>> > >> change some day. >>> > >> >>> > >> "inside the box" oh man. I had a convo with a SBC rep once. DS3 >>> > >> port >>> > > $2000, >>> > >> 700ft to cross the street $28K. Wireless? to quote "That (roof >>> > >> access) >>> > is >>> > >> to far >>> > >> out side the box". This is 10 years ago. >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> On a side, I play the lotto and fiddle with numbers and burn >>> > >> $5/mo or >>> so >>> > > in >>> > >> tickets. Its a hobby and it pays off often enough to fund itself. >>> > >> If I >>> > > were >>> > >> to >>> > >> ever 'win big' I would do this for free, I simply love doing it. >>> > >> Yes, >>> I >>> > am >>> > >> certifiable. >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>> Mark Nash >>> > >>> UnwiredWest >>> > >>> 78 Centennial Loop >>> > >>> Suite E >>> > >>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>> > >>> 541-998-5555 >>> > >>> 541-998-5599 fax >>> > >>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> > >>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:39 PM >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>>> I'm doing just that using Ubiquiti Pico2HP units as the AP and >>> bullets >>> > >>>> for the backhaul (5GHz whenever possible). >>> > >>>> -RickG >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mark McElvy >>> > >>>> <mmce...@accubak.com> >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >>>>> I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to >>> > redistribute >>> > >>>>> service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without putting up a >>> > >>>>> full blown AP/BH setup. 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