In general, in the rural areas I work in, spectrum availability isn't  
ever the issue. In cities and sometimes village centers, yes, but not  
in the areas that should be addressed with broadband funding.

Chuck

On Oct 8, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Robert West wrote:

> Yes.  However my point in it all is that if the government wants to  
> help
> then cash really isn't the answer.  You can throw money at anything  
> and
> still have no useable result.  Cash versus spectrum.  I need tools,  
> not
> money.  With the correct spectrum we wouldn't have to worry about  
> cherry
> picking.  I know, I know, everyone gripes about spectrum  
> availability but
> it's because it's true.  That would change the entire makeup of  
> wireless
> internet.  That would be in the public good and, after all, the  
> public DOES
> own the airwaves but our representatives use it as a profit center  
> instead
> of the original intent of "serving the public good".
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Chuck Bartosch
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 1:16 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth
>
> The problem I've seen in general is that a lot of areas are cherry-
> picked. Anything with any reasonable density (say, the Village centers
> in a Town) already have access. You can't really make a business case
> based on what people can afford to roll out service in many areas out
> here because of the geography.
>
> Yet, there's public good, not just individual good, done by providing
> access to these folks.
>
> So, yes, I think the stimulus funding can be a good thing. The problem
> is, I fear it's going to be co-opted for applications that really
> didn't need the funding in the first place.
>
> Chuck
>
> On Oct 8, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Robert West wrote:
>
>> One of my issues is that it isn't necessary.  We make money at this
>> business, or at least try to.  If an area is underserved or not
>> served,
>> that's usually because of middle mile issues or terrain.  It's all
>> line of
>> sight and no one, not even the people trying to start up a wisp with
>> this
>> "free" money, are going to put up towers every mile or so just to
>> pump a
>> signal into a valley with 2 or 3 homes if even that.  So they will
>> obviously
>> be going for the "easy" areas and those are ones that we can service
>> just
>> fine already and probably do.  The motivation is profit, it
>> shouldn't be
>> free money.  As someone mentioned before, the majority of these new
>> startups
>> will be here and gone and they will no doubt give a black eye to the
>> wireless business from their lack of experience and sense of
>> responsibility
>> to both their customer and the reputation of the industry they
>> represent.
>>
>> The only true Broadband Stimulus would be to open up enough usable
>> white
>> space spectrum and the market will take care of it from there.
>>
>> Guaranteed.
>>
>>
>> Robert West
>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Tim Sylvester
>> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 12:43 PM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth
>>
>>> Stimulus: I don't believe in it and did not apply.
>>
>> I want to understand people's opposition to the Broadband Stimulus
>> programs.
>>
>>
>> Rick and other people opposed to the stimulus, can you expand on why
>> you
>> don't believe in the Stimulus and why you didn't apply? Are there
>> things you
>> think the government - FCC, congress, etc. - could do to help ISPs  
>> and
>> expanding broadband?
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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