You disagree with us, that's fine.  Let's stop wasting time arguing about it
as neither side will change their opinion.

What other barriers to WISP growth are there?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:

>  I am not seeing that in this area... at all.
>
> Milk is $1.89 per gallon. A year ago milk was $2.90 a gallon.
>
> Gas is now $2.45 per gallon. A year ago gas was $3.25 a gallon.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
> The fear is not 5% increase, the fear is about a 50% or 200% increase...
>
> Don't know if you do your own grocery shopping.... You may not have noticed
> that in the last 12-18 months all costs food items etc have gone up by a
> double digit %.
>
> In the US, we all have been living the good life, ask anyone from South
> America, Asia or Africa, about currency devaluation  and it's affects. If
> the spending like a banshee continues, without much to show for it... Then
> be ready for a'currency devaluation' aka falling dollar......
>
> Simply put, the buying power of the US dollar declines.....thus what you
> paid 50 cents for will now be a $1.
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
> Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:39 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] American Dollar. Was: Re: Barriers to WISP growth
>
> 5% increase of costs don't stop at just bread.  It costs 5% more to ship.
> Your WISP gear.  Gas and truck.  Payroll.
>
> If it costs more to get into the US it costs more to get to you.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> <t...@ida.net> 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>  I understand that.... so instead of bread costing $2.00 per loaf, it
> goes up to $2.10.
>
> So because of that "fear", everyone wants to find a different place to
> put money besides a bank? Seems strange to me.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Jeff Ehman wrote:
>
>
>  Imports cost us way more money.  That may not directly affect any
>
>
>  individual consumer, but it does impact nearly every manufacturer.
> Cost of production increases greatly.  The only way they can make
> money is to increase their prices to distributors who in turn have to
> raise the price to individual consumers.  It creates inflation.
>
>
>  -Jeff Ehman
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
> On
>
>
>  Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>
>
>  Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:26 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] American Dollar. Was: Re: Barriers to WISP
> growth
>
> I've never understood this thinking... who cares if the dollar is
> "worth
>
>
>  less" to the rest of the world? If it will still buy groceries, or pay
> my power bill, why does it matter?
>
>
>  Travis
> Microserv
>
> RickG wrote:
>
> "put some money in the bank"
>
> The question is: which currency?
>
> With the dollar falling (or failing) what good is it going to do in
> the
>
>
>  bank?
>
>
>  I guess I'll just keep pouring it back into the company because its
>
> gonna be worthless soon.
>
> Any other ideas guys?
>
> -RickG
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Marlon K. Schafer
> <o...@odessaoffice.com <mailto:o...@odessaoffice.com> <o...@odessaoffice.com> 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Yeah, what he said!
>
>
>
> I'm gonna work REALLY hard to pay down debt and put some money in
> the
>
>
>  bank
>
>
>  over the next 3 or 4 years.  I want to be ready to pick those
> companies
>
>
>  up.
>
>
>  marlon
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Marco Coelho" <coelh...@gmail.com> 
> <coelh...@gmail.com><mailto:coelh...@gmail.com> <coelh...@gmail.com>
>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> 
> <wireless@wispa.org><mailto:wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org>
>
> Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 8:20 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Barriers to WISP growth
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick,
>
>
>
> Not being one for gov money....
>
>
>
> We have excellent credit.  We have that because we only expand at a
>
> rate the will allow funding (new business) to cover our costs.  So
> the
>
> cycle goes:
>
>
>
> 1.  Build out X number of Towers.
>
> 2.  Market X number of Areas.
>
> 3.  Install Customers to X*Y until well funded.
>
>
>
> Repeat.
>
>
>
> I think a lot of the companies that take stimulus money are going to
>
> go under in the long run.  They will go like the dot-coms.  Build
>
> build Build.... Ah shit no revenue!
>
>
>
> That being said, we are vertical, all workers work for the company.
>
> That is the only way you can control quality.  Good employees are
> very
>
> hard to find.  For every 100-200 applications/resumes, maybe 10 are
>
> worth talking to seriously.  You're lucky to find 1 that is worth
>
> hiring.
>
>
>
> Always a ray of sunshine!
>
>
>
> Marco Coelho
>
> Argon Technologies Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> 
> <rgunder...@gmail.com><mailto:
>
>  rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Patrick,
>
>
>
> #1- Labor: There is very little skilled resources here.
>
> #2- Funding: Especially for labor. Normal financing channels are
>
> available but I will not take on too much debt at one time.
>
> #3- Time: There is little extra time to dedicate towards expansion
>
> versus daily operations.
>
>
>
> Notes-
>
> Employees: Too small to enjoy such a "luxury".
>
> Stimulus: I don't believe in it and did not apply.
>
> Technologies: Proprietary equipment are a bit too expensive unless
> you
>
> buy CPE in 100 packs. Even then, the AP's are still expensive.
>
>
>
> -RickG
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Patrick Leary <ple...@apertonet.com 
> <mailto:ple...@apertonet.com> <ple...@apertonet.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Regardless of your tech choice -- Moto, 802.11-based, WiMAX or
> other, I
>
> am interested to know what are the greatest barriers to growth and why?
>
>
>
> Some possibilities:
>
> Is it funding and if so, are your normal channels for money frozen
> or
>
> otherwise gone?
>
> Is it competition? If so, how specifically.
>
> Are you constrained from hiring due to high cost of employee
> benefits
>
> (e.g. health insurance)?
>
> Are you stalled waiting for response from your stimulus application?
>
> Are you stalled trying to defend against someone else's stimulus
>
> application that would include your market?
>
> Are the current technologies too expensive or technicall inadequate
> to
>
> deliver what you need to compete?
>
>
>
> Patrick Leary
>
> Aperto Networks
>
> 813.426.4230 mobile
>
>
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