On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

> LOL
>
> Lets be honest here.  At 380 foot well isn't free.  The electricity  
> to pump
> the water isn't free either.

So is the electricity needed to run your computer to get the Internet  
or for your phone if you have an "unlimited" local calling plan.  
That's hardly a relevant point as to whether the service is "free" or  
"unlimited" or not.

> Lots of dead trees means a chain saw, splitter, WORK etc.  Also not  
> free.

Sheesh, it costs me gas to get to the free lunch and I had to lift my  
fork to my face. Does that mean it wasn't free?

<poke>

Chuck


>
> The natural gas isn't free either.  You had to pay for the chili!
> grin
> marlon
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing
>
>
>> I have unlimited water; 380 foot well.  Unlimited heat; lots of dead
>> trees.  Working on the unlimited electricity thing.  There is
>> unlimited "natural gas" on this list.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> At 10:53 PM 11/7/2009, you wrote:
>>> I have unlimited water in my home. $40 per month.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> RickG wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For $100 a month per phone and the internet access is relatively  
>>>> slow.
>>>> Not
>>>> really an "apples to apples" comparison.
>>>>
>>>> In my home, I want unlimited electicity, natural gas, and water  
>>>> too!
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Travis Johnson
>>>> <mailto:t...@ida.net><t...@ida.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The cellular guys don't charge by the minute... I have an  
>>>>> unlimited
>>>>> plan
>>>>> on my cell phone. I can also get unlimited text and internet  
>>>>> access for
>>>>> $9.95/mo extra.
>>>>>
>>>>> People don't want to guess what their internet bills are going  
>>>>> to be
>>>>> from
>>>>> month to month. Would you want that at your own home?
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary Garrett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You sound like the cell phone company.
>>>>> I am convinced the big failure in my business model is I charge  
>>>>> by the
>>>>> month while the cellular guys charge by the minute.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> You are talking about having to add additional resources  
>>>>> (radius, etc.)
>>>>> to track it. Then you have to bill it. Then you get to deal with  
>>>>> the
>>>>> phone calls from users that say "My computer wasn't even turned on
>>>>> during those times. Remove the charge or I will go elsewhere."   
>>>>> So, even
>>>>> that one extra phone call costs you money (because you have to  
>>>>> think
>>>>> about scaling). Imagine if you have 100x the number of customers  
>>>>> you
>>>>> have now... does the same solution work? Probably not.
>>>>>
>>>>> The easier solution would be to call that customer and get them to
>>>>> upgrade to the next plan up (which would provide higher speed as  
>>>>> well).
>>>>> This works very well for us... and then I have that guaranteed  
>>>>> extra
>>>>> income each month, even if they don't use it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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