Good point Jeff ! :)

Jeff Broadwick wrote:
> Wow Jack!
>  
> "99% of the working people have lost or given up their power to govern their
> own lives."
>  
> I believe that there are a small percent of people who knowingly or
> unknowingly have turned their lives over to someone else, but to say that it
> is 99% is just wrong.  
>
> Jeff 
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ImageStream
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>
>  
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:56 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in regulation of
> net-neutrality
>
>
> Brad, 
>
> You are misunderstanding or ignoring what I've been saying so let's try it
> again. 
>
> When you have more people crowded into the same space your are going to have
> more frequent and more complex problems, including more fighting over the
> available amount of resources. Like it or not, attempting to maintain order
> is expected of government, be it large or small government. A two-person
> police force is expected to be able to maintain order in a tiny community
> and a 10,000 person police force is expected to be able to maintain order in
> a large city. A two-person (small government) police force will not be able
> to maintain order in New York or Los Angeles. "Socialism" (however that is
> defined or mis-defined)  has nothing to do with this basic dynamic. 
>
> America was built by hard-working people who thrived within the limited
> government framework that the founding fathers provided. Unfortunately
> today, 99% of the working people have lost or given up their power to govern
> their own lives. That power now resides in the hands of large corporations
> (banks, factory farms, seed companies, meat processors, insurance companies,
> news networks, incumbent telecom companies, etc.). Government has
> unfortunately become complicit in this dynamic. Today, big money
> corporations control government by "buying off" politicians through large
> campaign contributions. It doesn't matter if the politicians are Democrats
> or Republicans. Our big-money political system has corrupted virtually all
> of them.  Until we fix our broken political system by removing the
> corrupting effect of big money, none of us will regain the freedoms that
> were fought for and won by our ancestors. 
>
> jack
>
>
>
> Brad Belton wrote: 
>
>       Jack,
>       
>       I completely disagree with the notion that America has to become
> smaller to
>       have a smaller less invasive government!  It is a socialist
> mentality to
>       think that only government can grow America or help Americans.
>       
>       America achieved its success by people utilizing their abilities to
> better
>       themselves and their lives free of an overly burdening government.
> America
>       was not built by grants, entitlements or anything big government can
>       possibly provide.  Instead our constitution provides a framework
> outlining
>       government limitations, so as to prevent government to ever be able
> to
>       control the people it governs.  The people of the republic govern
> not the
>       other way around.
>       
>       Countless Americans have given their lives to protect the very
> freedom big
>       government takes away.  Government run health care just happens to
> be the
>       straw that broke the camel's back and Americans are saying enough is
> enough
>       in overwhelming numbers.
>       
>       
>       Brad
>       
>       
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
>       Behalf Of Jack Unger
>       Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:48 PM
>       To: WISPA General List
>       Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role in
> regulation of
>       net-neutrality
>       
>       Brad,
>       
>       There is really only one way to get a smaller government without 
>       throwing society into total disarray. That method is to have a
> smaller 
>       country, in other words, a lower level of population. With an
> exploding 
>       population there is just no way that I can see to get a smaller
> government.
>       
>       If only reclaiming our country for working people was as easy as
> voting 
>       the incumbents out that would be GREAT but unfortunately it's not
> that 
>       simple. Voting the incumbents out won't result in government doing a
>
>       better job for working people because the real influence is the 
>       big-corporation money that finances the election campaigns for each
> new 
>       crop of political nominees. The big-money lobbyists remain when each
> old 
>       group of politicians is voted out so the big-money corporation's
> power 
>       actually becomes greater and greater as time goes on.
>       
>       The solution that I propose is equal public financing for ALL
> political 
>       campaigns. Each nominee (and incumbent) would receive an equal
> number of 
>       taxpayer dollars to run their campaign. This will help ALL
> candidates 
>       remember who they are supposed to be working for (working-class 
>       taxpayers, not large corporations).
>       
>       As to regaining some influence for working people with regard to
> banks, 
>       I'd recommend that everyone put their money in a local credit union
> or 
>       small local community bank. My money has been kept in a local
> community 
>       credit union for over 20 years and I feel good about it being there.
>
>       It's contributing to the community instead of being used in an 
>       irresponsible fashion and/or used against the best interests of the 
>       community.
>       
>       Best,
>                 jack
>       
>       
>       Brad Belton wrote:
>         
>
>               The fundamental difference that Jack fails to recognize is
> if a bank (or
>               organization other than the government) does treat you
> unfairly you have
>               recourse.  If your own government treats you unfairly, you
> have little to
>                   
>
>       no
>         
>
>               recourse.
>               
>                
>               
>               Yes, we can all only hope the majority of Americans will
> continue to stand
>               up and say no more to big government.  A smaller less
> intrusive government
>               is what America needs.  In order to achieve this we have to
> remove the
>               career politicians from office that have clearly lost touch
> with the
>                   
>
>       people
>         
>
>               that elected them.
>               
>                
>               
>               Brad
>               
>                
>               
>                
>               
>               From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>               Behalf Of Jack Unger
>               Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:01 PM
>               To: WISPA General List
>               Subject: Re: [WISPA] Common Carrier or what: The FCC's role
> in regulation
>                   
>
>       of
>         
>
>               net-neutrality
>               
>                
>               
>               So, now that government has been drowned, the huge banks,
> insurance
>               companies, telecoms can do whatever they want to you
> whenever they want to
>               do it.
>               
>               BWaaaah, haaa, haaaa, haaa, haaaaggggh.... 
>               
>               
>               Frank Crawford wrote: 
>               
>               YES
>                
>               Jack Unger wrote:
>                 
>               
>               I trust that government will be able to keep up just fine.
> Do you 
>               support the alternative of making government so small that
> you can drown 
>               it in a bathtub?
>                
>               Glenn Kelley wrote:
>                 
>                   
>               
>               Title II of the Communications Act-the section that
> regulates
>               telecommunications common carriers is now being considered
> by the FCC to
>               oversee broadband.  FCC Commissioner Robert M. McDowell
> during a talk he
>               gave to the Free State Foundation asked:  (see First Do No
> Harm: A
>                   
>
>       broadband
>         
>
>               plan for Amercia)
>               "Exactly what kind of companies might get tangled up into
> this regulatory
>               Rubik's Cube?.Any Internet company that offers a voice
> application?" .
>                   
>
>       "With
>         
>
>               this newfound authority, why stop at voice apps? Isn't voice
> just another
>               type of data app? As the distinction between network
> operators and
>               application providers continues to blur at an eye-popping
> rate, how will
>                   
>
>       the
>         
>
>               government be able to keep up?"
>                
>                
>               Much more on the blog:   www.HostMedic.com --> 
>               
>                   
>
>       
> ____________________________________________________________________________
>         
>
>               _________
>               Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com 
>                 Email: gl...@hostmedic.com
>               Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to.
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