The restraint is government. How do you restrain capitalism without the restraint of laws, including those that restrain monopolies?
The implication of saying the only companies that have monopolies are the ones that government gives monopolies to is that without government monopolies, and without government interference, there would be no monopolies. I'm saying that government *has* to play a role in restraining capitalism from self-destructing. There's no question in my mind that I want as much freedom as possible...but I fully realize that if I'm given complete "freedom" to do as I want, I'll do things that are bad for me. Or bad for everyone else anyway. That's why wives and girlfriends are good for those of us who are men. Or for those of us who are women too I suppose ;-). Chuck On Feb 5, 2010, at 6:48 PM, RickG wrote: > Chuck, where did I say "unrestrained? The rest of my post is questions. So, > I agree with your reply in as much as that nobody should be unrestrained. As > far as history, to what do you refer to? > -RickG > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Chuck Bartosch > <ch...@clarityconnect.com>wrote: > >> >> On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:34 AM, RickG wrote: >> >>> Jack, The only companies that "can do whatever they want to you whenever >>> they want to do it" are the ones given a monopoly and power by guess who >> - >>> big government! So, where is the problem? Is it the companies or the >>> government? >> >> That statement completely ignores history. The tendency of any >> unconstrained capitalist is to form a monopoly. Hell, *I'd* do it if I could >> ;-). And unconstrained capitalism that achieves a monopoly rarely acts in >> its customers own best interests. >> >> If nothing else, it's in our society's interest to prevent monopolies >> because innovation stagnates in a monoploy situation. >> >> Some restraint by government is necessary to keep the system from damaging >> itself. Part of your argument is specious since by definition once >> government restrains most monopolies, the only ones left are the ones it >> allows (but there's no real content in that statement). There are very few >> created monopolies (mail still and phones from a long time ago being two of >> them). >> >> Chuck >> >> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So, now that government has been drowned, the huge banks, insurance >>>> companies, telecoms can do whatever they want to you whenever they want >> to >>>> do it. >>>> >>>> BWaaaah, haaa, haaaa, haaa, haaaaggggh.... >>>> >>>> >>>> Frank Crawford wrote: >>>> >>>> YES >>>> >>>> Jack Unger wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I trust that government will be able to keep up just fine. Do you >>>> support the alternative of making government so small that you can drown >>>> it in a bathtub? >>>> >>>> Glenn Kelley wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Title II of the Communications Act—the section that regulates >> telecommunications common carriers is now being considered by the FCC to >> oversee broadband. FCC Commissioner Robert M. McDowell during a talk he >> gave to the Free State Foundation asked: (see First Do No Harm: A broadband >> plan for Amercia) >>>> “Exactly what kind of companies might get tangled up into this >> regulatory Rubik’s Cube?…Any Internet company that offers a voice >> application?” … “With this newfound authority, why stop at voice apps? Isn’t >> voice just another type of data app? As the distinction between network >> operators and application providers continues to blur at an eye-popping >> rate, how will the government be able to keep up?” >>>> >>>> >>>> Much more on the blog: www.HostMedic.com --> >>>> >> _____________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com >>>> Email: gl...@hostmedic.com >>>> Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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