What do you mean when you say "The problem is getting there." I have always disclosed my transfer limits on my website http://g5i.net/internet.php
Up until recently, I have not even begun to enforce them. But now it is necessary. I have started IP accounting on my Cisco border router and am collecting the data into a mysql database. I will start to invoice the customers who go over. The way I look at it, these are pretty big limits, and those handful of people who are going over all the time, will either leave my network, because they don't like paying the overages, which will be a good thing because I'm making a loss on them anyway. OR They will reduce their usage, OR they will pay me more. Win, Win, Win. Thanks, Roger On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:21 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree and have been saying that since 1997! The problem is, getting there. > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Roger Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >> I think the solution is to cap the connections to x Gb per month. Our >> plans start at 30Gb of transfer per month. Then charge per Gb after >> that. >> >> People's usage is just going to go up and up, with more and more >> streaming video, torrents, gaming etc. My opinion is, eventually you >> will NOT be able to keep up trying to provide unlimited service, >> unless you have sky high prices. I think caps and metered usage is >> inevitable, even for the big guys. >> >> Thanks, >> Roger >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Josh Luthman >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Only 20 connections? I've found 75 to be a good number (Butch put that in >>> place ages ago and I've been the only person in 3 years to get up to that). >>> >>> I'm looking at an SM now from a customer that called in this >>> morning...they're using 43 connections. It's one (wireless) laptop on a >>> Linksys into the SM. Each connection is port 80 or 443 except one - 4500 >>> (Cisco VP?) >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue >>> that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> They can do what they want, with the following caveats: >>>> >>>> They don't open more than 20 connections. >>>> >>>> The overhead on the pipe allows, while being subject to packet delays if >>>> the >>>> thread is long duration, and the overhead IS needed. >>>> >>>> I think the key to network control is to NEVER let ANY user impact the pipe >>>> at the peril of others. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott >>>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:40 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Cc: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents >>>> >>>> I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough* >>>> >>>> But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting >>>> other users, we call them and ask them to slow down thier up/downloads >>>> so they don't piss off thier neighbors. >>>> >>>> My wife called one of our customers to ask that they stop bittorenting >>>> so much. The dad said that no-one was torrenting in the house... >>>> Further investigation showed it was the 13year old son downloading >>>> movies etc. >>>> >>>> He was grounded for the rest of his life... Turns out dad was the >>>> group program manager for Microsoft's DRM group! (whoops! We sure >>>> felt bad) >>>> >>>> ryan >>>> >>>> On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:54 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Even though our AUP & TOS does not allow it, I have a customer >>>> > demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I >>>> > being over >>>> > zealous on not allowing torrents? Who here allows or disallows them? >>>> > -RickG >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > --- >>>> > --- >>>> > --- >>>> > --- >>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> > WISPA Wants You! 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