What I mean is that I'm so busy taking care of things I dont have time review, implement, operate a metered billing solution. Like everything else, I'm sure it takes time & resources. Note: My comment about usage based billing revolves around the system I put in place back in 1997 with the help of an Allot box. That was when I ran a different ISP. The ISP I run now is much bigger. Thanks! -RickG
On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Roger Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > What do you mean when you say "The problem is getting there." > > I have always disclosed my transfer limits on my website > http://g5i.net/internet.php > > Up until recently, I have not even begun to enforce them. But now it > is necessary. I have started IP accounting on my Cisco border router > and am collecting the data into a mysql database. > > I will start to invoice the customers who go over. The way I look at > it, these are pretty big limits, and those handful of people who are > going over all the time, will either leave my network, because they > don't like paying the overages, which will be a good thing because I'm > making a loss on them anyway. OR They will reduce their usage, OR they > will pay me more. > > Win, Win, Win. > > Thanks, > Roger > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 8:21 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >> I agree and have been saying that since 1997! The problem is, getting there. >> >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Roger Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I think the solution is to cap the connections to x Gb per month. Our >>> plans start at 30Gb of transfer per month. Then charge per Gb after >>> that. >>> >>> People's usage is just going to go up and up, with more and more >>> streaming video, torrents, gaming etc. My opinion is, eventually you >>> will NOT be able to keep up trying to provide unlimited service, >>> unless you have sky high prices. I think caps and metered usage is >>> inevitable, even for the big guys. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Roger >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Josh Luthman >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Only 20 connections? I've found 75 to be a good number (Butch put that in >>>> place ages ago and I've been the only person in 3 years to get up to that). >>>> >>>> I'm looking at an SM now from a customer that called in this >>>> morning...they're using 43 connections. It's one (wireless) laptop on a >>>> Linksys into the SM. Each connection is port 80 or 443 except one - 4500 >>>> (Cisco VP?) >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue >>>> that counts.” >>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mike <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> They can do what they want, with the following caveats: >>>>> >>>>> They don't open more than 20 connections. >>>>> >>>>> The overhead on the pipe allows, while being subject to packet delays if >>>>> the >>>>> thread is long duration, and the overhead IS needed. >>>>> >>>>> I think the key to network control is to NEVER let ANY user impact the >>>>> pipe >>>>> at the peril of others. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>>> Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott >>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:40 AM >>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>> Cc: WISPA General List >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] bit torrents >>>>> >>>>> I allow it at 4kbps... For the entire network. muhahahahahahah *cough* >>>>> >>>>> But seriously. I have a play nice policy. If someone is affecting >>>>> other users, we call them and ask them to slow down thier up/downloads >>>>> so they don't piss off thier neighbors. >>>>> >>>>> My wife called one of our customers to ask that they stop bittorenting >>>>> so much. The dad said that no-one was torrenting in the house... >>>>> Further investigation showed it was the 13year old son downloading >>>>> movies etc. >>>>> >>>>> He was grounded for the rest of his life... Turns out dad was the >>>>> group program manager for Microsoft's DRM group! (whoops! We sure >>>>> felt bad) >>>>> >>>>> ryan >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 13, 2010, at 9:54 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Even though our AUP & TOS does not allow it, I have a customer >>>>> > demanding to run bit torrents. I want to be fair in all matters. Am I >>>>> > being over >>>>> > zealous on not allowing torrents? Who here allows or disallows them? >>>>> > -RickG >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > --- >>>>> > --- >>>>> > --- >>>>> > --- >>>>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> > WISPA Wants You! 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