Remember when Marlon said to use latex gloves under your thinsulate ones?
Well being cheap, I bought nitryl plastic ones instead.  Once I suffered
from near frostbite I learned my lesson.  The box of gloves I bought at
harbor freight are now under the kitchen sink for toxic duty.  Don't use the
nitryl ones, your hands will get colder.  

I taped some of those handwarmer things, you kinow, the ones with iron
powder in them, to my wrists the same day.  The inside of my wrists suffered
second degree burns at the same time my fingertips froze.  It was a fun
install.  Thinsulate is your friend; handwarmers should not be used by
morons and wisp operators.

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:05 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... Sigh....

Don't we all know that feeling...

I remember climbing 300' when it was below freezing, 30mph winds and
the snow was more wet then anything.  Before I climbed one of the
customers said "You're killing my business".  Mind you he has had no
issues outside of this instance, 6 months since we bought the network.
 Half way up I just kept reciting that laughing at how ridiculous the
situation was - I'm way above the ground freezing my ass off to fix
just a few customers and they were that grateful.  Gotta love it :)

On 3/27/10, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote:
> Both.  Combination of Mikrotik and UBNT.  UBNT bridged and the MT's
routed.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Greg Ihnen
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:39 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network....... Sigh....
>
> Is your network routed or bridged or a combination?
>
> Greg
>
> On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Robert West wrote:
>
>> The main thing that was throwing me is, even when I took the bad AP off
>> line, the rest of the network took a long time to recover.  5 minutes or
> so
>> and I wasn't waiting that long most of the time to see results, I was in
a
>> bit of a hurry so when it didn't settle, I moved onto the next.
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:17 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network.......
Sigh....
>>
>> Bridge loop, probably.
>>
>> 100M spitting out on to a backbone that can't handle that much bandwidth.
>>
>> I had a Redline backhaul create a loop and it flooded the traffic through
>> the rest of the network, taking out everything up until the 100M fiber
> tower
>> at which point I had ~60M to use.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue
>> that counts."
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Mike <m...@aweiowa.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be curious how you figured out it was THAT unit causing the grief.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Robert West
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:06 AM
>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network.......
> Sigh....
>>>
>>> Yep.  And it went everywhere.  Must have got in through the inside of
the
>> N
>>> connector, that tape was wound pretty tight and I didn't see any water
>>> inside the tape.  Took the Bullet apart, wasn't much water but the board
>>> was
>>> "moist" like condensation.  Dried it all out, works fine now.  Smeared
>> some
>>> RTV sealant on it to make me feel good but man, that was not much fun to
>>> ferret out.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:01 AM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT Bullet Takes Down Entire Network.......
> Sigh....
>>>
>>> So much time spent learning how to deploy cheap Ubnt stuff.  Not as
>>> bad as MikrotikN but geez.
>>>
>>> So the antenna full of water caused the bullet to go nuts and caused a
>>> packet storm, is that right?
>>>
>>> On 3/27/10, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote:
>>>> HA!  Had lots and lots of rain the other night.  At around 2am I get an
>>>> alarm, everything is losing connection.  Everything.  EVERYTHING!
>>> Started
>>>> on it at 7am, was everyplace trying to isolate sections, was driving me
>>>> nuts.  Finally, found one Bullet 5M that had a 5GHz stick antenna on it
>>> (Was
>>>> for tech access on AP down on the ground, was a weird fix) and the
thing
>>> had
>>>> just enough water in it to cause it blast the network.  Water?  Well,
>> I'm
>>> a
>>>> freak for taping a waterproofing everything but on this, installer boy
>>>> (That's his official name) taped it alright but since it was a stick
>>> antenna
>>>> on it, taped the N connector on the bullet and then all the way up to
>> the
>>>> clamp on the antenna!  Hmmmmmm..  That seems to cover the DRAIN HOLES
on
>>> the
>>>> bottom of the antenna.  (We'll have a talk.  Another one.)  Antenna, of
>>>> course, full of water.  Must have filled up then had enough pressure to
>>> seep
>>>> through the tape somehow into the Bullet.  Nice.  So here it is, this
>>> little
>>>> nothing off in the corner doing it's dirty work all over the network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It hates me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Had to share.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Robert West
>>>>
>>>> Just Micro Digital Services Inc.
>>>>
>>>> 740-335-7020
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Logo5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue that counts."
>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts."
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