We bought out a company several years ago. They had some Hyperlink 2 watt 900MHZ amps. I can only imagine how much ³damage² those could do if they were hooked to an Omni. Sheesh. -- Justin Wilson <j...@mtin.net> http://www.mtin.net http://www.metrospan.net
From: Greg Ihnen <os10ru...@gmail.com> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:15:43 -0430 To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! I bought an amp from them once (before I knew better) and they only sold it to me because I was taking it out of the country (they took my word on it). Greg On Mar 31, 2010, at 2:24 PM, RickG wrote: > I tried to order one of these to make up for coaxial loss on one of my > towers. They wouldnt sell it to me! > -RickG > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Tom Sharples <tsharp...@qorvus.com> wrote: >> Looks like their products are still available. Here's my favorite: >> >> http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22131 >> >> Can you imagine running that kind of power - indoors?? >> >> Tom S. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 7:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >> >> >>> lol >>> >>> Yeah, it sucks. Really the vendors that sell those configs are the ones >>> that we should all avoid like the plague. Then BOTH companies would go >>> away >>> sooner than later. >>> >>> Anyone remember Hyperlink? They loved to sell those 1 watt amps with 15dB >>> omni antennas. Those guys put more operators out of business than there >>> are >>> in business today. It's a shame. >>> >>> But hey, that's what these lists are for. ASK QUESTIONS!!!!! Don't know >>> about everyone else here but I'd rather answer the same question twice a >>> week than see a company fail due to bad advice. >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kurt Fankhauser" <k...@wavelinc.com> >>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 5:40 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>> >>> >>>> Marlon, >>>> >>>> I think people should have to take a test in order to be a WISP. >>>> Otherwise >>>> you got all these pop-up idiots that know nothing about RF and setting up >>>> 20db sectors with XR2's set at default power levels. This is well over >>>> 50watts EIRP. >>>> >>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>> WAVELINC >>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>> 419-562-6405 >>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:51 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>>> >>>> I get what you are saying Bob. But sometimes it's more about knowing WHO >>>> to >>>> >>>> call. >>>> >>>> I just had a guy call with a similar problem. You all know him and I'd >>>> drop >>>> >>>> his name but I don't want to tip off the dirt bag operator..... >>>> >>>> When he first called the FCC he ended up at the wrong place. They told >>>> him >>>> that there was nothing they could do. >>>> >>>> I had him call back and specifically ask for the enforcement folks NOT >>>> the >>>> consumer complaint folks. >>>> >>>> He had pictures, spectrum analyzer, radio screen shots etc. that showed, >>>> clearly, that the other guy was aiming antennas right at his. When the >>>> good >>>> >>>> guy moved channels the bad guy moved with him, within days. He was also >>>> able to get together with another local WISP who added his name to the >>>> complaint. >>>> >>>> This did take a couple of months to work through the system but last I'd >>>> heard the FCC HAD been working on this complaint. Perhaps it's far >>>> enough >>>> along that the good guy can tell you a bit more. >>>> >>>> 1-800-call-fcc Ask for ENFORCEMENT. You need to have your documentation >>>> in >>>> >>>> order first. >>>> >>>> It's true that we all have to accept interference. It's also true that >>>> we >>>> can't CAUSE it maliciously. They also have a hissy fit when we go over >>>> the >>>> allowable power levels. >>>> >>>> For what it's worth, nearly all of my systems are below, often well >>>> below, >>>> legal levels. They tend to work better that way anyhow. Use bigger >>>> antennas not more power. Range and reliability is about SNR. You can >>>> get >>>> that in two ways. More power is one. Better ears is another. Better >>>> ears >>>> also mean narrower beams which usually means less interference which also >>>> means greater SNR which means longer ranges which means less AP's which >>>> means less interference etc. etc. etc. >>>> >>>> laters, >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Lakeland" <lakel...@gbcx.net> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 12:40 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>>> >>>> >>>>> Marlon, >>>>> >>>>> You have personal contacts. That's cheating. I have contacts too and >>>>> could >>>>> probably get action if I needed it but I am talking the regular Wisp >>>>> calling >>>>> the field office. Unless you have an inside number at the field office >>>>> you >>>>> usually only get the recorded TV interference message. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I'm just totally wrong. >>>>> >>>>> -B- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Marlon K. Schafer writes: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmmmm, I've had much better luck that than Bob. >>>>>> >>>>>> marlon >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Lakeland" <lakel...@gbcx.net> >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:16 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry I side with Travis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have quite a few experiences with Enforcement Bureau out of NY, >>>>>>> Philly >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> DC and I know with the tremendous reduction of their budget and >>>>>>> workforce >>>>>>> they are having enough issues just trying to do FM/AM/TV inspections >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> they are required by law to do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no manpower for chasing down unlicensed operations unless >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> causing interference to a licensed operation like weather radar or >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> other priority service. Forget pursuing an interference complaint >>>>>>> between >>>>>>> two Part 15 issues especially if any travel is involved. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thats the reality of the matter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -B- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jerry Richardson writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gotta keep bringing it up. eventually they will respond. Squeaky >>>>>>>> wheel >>>>>>>> gets the grease. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ideally a host of documentation including letters to the offending >>>>>>>> ISP, >>>>>>>> previous reports to the FCC, etc will build the case. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gotta prove that they are operating over 36dB and that they are >>>>>>>> affecting >>>>>>>> other legitimate users of the band. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>>>>>>> On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 2:38 PM >>>>>>>> To: wa4...@arrl.net; WISPA General List >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Oh this business, tell me again why we love it?! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Negative. I know of an ISP using 5 watt amps on 2.4ghz omni antennas. >>>>>>>> They have been reported several times to the FCC, and nothing >>>>>>>> happens. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Travis >>>>>>>> Microserv >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leon D. 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