Have you run into the pfsense pptp limitation? That is, only one customer 
(behind your pfsense NAT router) , can establish a pptp session to the same 
external pptp server at a time. At least, that's what the pfsense download 
site lists under known limitations.

Tom S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Lambert" <lamb...@lambertfam.org>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?


> On Fri, Apr 02, 2010 at 10:15:24PM -0400, Tom DeReggi wrote:
>> What Vyatta does is pretty cool. And they have also been giving back to 
>> open
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> But the bad is.... its priced wrong. They are going high end, targeting a
>> coporate user that might have one or two routers.
>> They make their money on support contracts and their fees are very
>> expensive. You pay per router, per processor, per year. And at $600-$900
>> each./yr or something like that.  Then there is the free community 
>> version,
>
> pfSense was the same way.  But, now they have support contracts based on
> resonable metrics, like hours, rather than boxes.
>
> I have had a pfSense box (Pentium III) acting as the corporate firewall
> with 5 interfaces for several years.  No problems.
>
> For the past 4 or 5 months, I've had a pfSense box (1 Ghz C7) running
> as a NAT box for a network we purchased recently.  It has been working
> great.  I have recently added the OpenOSPFd package and it is working
> well talking to StarOS, Mikrotik, Cisco, and Imagestream boxes.  The
> web GUI means I'm not the only guy who can figure out how to use them.
> Carp means I can set them up in redundant pairs.  I'll be bringing up
> OpenBGPd talking to the upstream soon so that we can get rid of the NAT.
>
> Both boxes have been loafing with 20 and 10Mbps of traffic respectively.
>
> My favorite part of pfSense is the fact that I can ssh in and use the
> usual BSD commands to do things when I can't get to the web interface
> because I am coming from an unusual IP which is not normally allowed
> access to the web interface.  I can also use tcpdump, mtr, nmap to look
> at any possible issues.
>
> I like the unix command line interfaces.  ImageStream and pfSense are
> both pretty decent from that perspective.  I hate how mikrotik and
> staros have gotten in my way.
>
> StarOS's shell with 6 commands really annoys me.  They could at least
> have included busybox.  Even just including less/more would have been
> an improvement.  Having grep would make my day.  Finding the route any
> particular StarOS box has to BFE in the midst of the other 300 routes is
> "fun".
>
> I think mikrotik should have tried to emulate the junos or cisco cli
> rather than inventing something new.  The hierarchy of the command tree
> feels random to me.  It probably makes sense to the developers though.
>
> But, I've been able to make them all work together.  They all seem
> reaonably reliable.
>
> I've not used Vyatta.
>
> -- 
> Scott Lambert                    KC5MLE                       Unix 
> SysAdmin
> lamb...@lambertfam.org
>
>
>
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