Hi All, 

I do not recommend this if your router is still under warranty/support.
Adding 3rd party hardware to the box will void whatever is left. 


Regards,

Jeff


Jeff Broadwick
ImageStream
800-813-5123 x106     (US/Can)
+1 574-935-8484 x106  (Int'l)

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:24 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)

You just saved many people hundreds or thousands :)

On 4/15/10, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:
> Yup... that's the one.
>
> Travis
>
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Maybe this one?
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036
>>
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>> continue that counts."
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tom Sharples <tsharp...@qorvus.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Thanks guys!
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: Travis Johnson
>>>  To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List
>>>  Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:57 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)
>>>
>>>
>>>  We installed several Intel Gigabit cards in our old Imagestream and 
>>> they worked great. They were the $40 Intel desktop cards.
>>>
>>>  Travis
>>>  Microserv
>>>
>>>
>>>  Tom Sharples wrote:
>>> Just received the imagestream gateway router (vintage 2006 or so) , 
>>> unfortunately it's equipped with 4-port T1/E1 cards, not ethernet 
>>> cards (sigh). Does anyone know if these will work with standard 
>>> (e.g. 3com, intel,
>>> whatever) 10/100 ethernet adaptors, or do we have to use a 
>>> proprietary card?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Tom S.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, for that many NIC included, you got a steal.
>>> A single 4port Intel oem Gig card PCI-e costs $430 new.
>>>
>>> (Actually that is probably not true, cause its probably an older 
>>> model that doesn't have PCI-E nic cards.)
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tom Sharples" <tsharp...@qorvus.com>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?
>>>
>>>
>>> I picked up the Gateway model, equipped with nine 4-port ethernet 
>>> expansion boards, for $625 on Ebay. Seems like a good deal altho I 
>>> don't know what this model costs new with the added ports. Way more 
>>> than we really need.
>>> I'm
>>> looking forward to trying it out tho.
>>>
>>> Tom S.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?
>>>
>>>
>>> Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues.  Need to push 
>>> a little bit and use the phone.  To this day I've not had a response 
>>> to my emails without a phone call.
>>>
>>> On 4/6/10, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org> wrote:
>>>  On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>    I really think you'll love ImageStream...
>>>      I don't mind the three living ImageStream TransPort routers we 
>>> inherited.  Once I changed the editor to default to vi, I was pretty 
>>> happy.
>>>
>>> I am not much of a fan of the interface configuration, though it is 
>>> currently more flexible and transparent than pfSense for multiple 
>>> subnets on the same interface.  The shellcmd plugin lets me have a 
>>> GUI to get around the current inadaquacy of the interface 
>>> configuration GUI of pfSense 1.2.3.
>>>
>>> I do find that I will make a change to the default route on the 
>>> Interface Configuration file; it will reload sand; and I will have 
>>> to go to bash and route delete default, route add default gateway 
>>> newip manually.  Or, I will put a new subnet on an interface and 
>>> can't get OSPFd to talk on that interface until I reboot the box.
>>>
>>> Just stopping and starting OSPFd didn't work.  I don't know if that 
>>> is an indication that I have bad hardware or what.  Using suspect 
>>> gear for your first experience with a platform is probably not the 
>>> best situation for figuring out what is what.  The other 4 inherited 
>>> TransPorts all have one or more blown ethernet ports so I haven't 
>>> been able to use them.  I can't point to anything on the other three 
>>> that screams "I'm busted."
>>>
>>> Having to reboot is really annoying.  Having to use the shell to 
>>> manually apply desired configuration changes, annoying, but at least 
>>> they give me the tools to do it. :-) I like flexibility.
>>>
>>> The biggest problem I have with going whole hog for the ImageStreams 
>>> is, it would take me much longer to train guys to run the 
>>> ImageStreams than it will take to train them to run pfSense.  The 
>>> secondary problem is cost :
>>>
>>> pfSense on Alix:          $204         3 eth
>>> pfSense on soekris:       $275-350     4 eth
>>>
>>> ImageStream on TransPort: $900 new     4 eth
>>>                          $600 e-bay.  3 eth
>>>
>>> We only do about 20 to 30 Mbps where I will have these deployed.  
>>> More horsepower would be wasted.  The BGP running pfSense box is a 
>>> bit beefier than the Alix boxes, but didn't quite cost as much as a 
>>> new TransPort.
>>>
>>>    On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Scott Lambert
>>> <lamb...@lambertfam.org>wrote:
>>>
>>>      On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 07:52:41PM -0400, Glenn Kelley wrote:
>>>        Scott
>>>
>>> One limitation currently with BGP is you cannot have more than 1 
>>> peer.
>>> I am awaiting that fix myself.
>>>          In the GUI anyway.
>>>
>>> 1. mount -u -w /
>>>
>>> 2. vi config file
>>>
>>> 3. Don't change the config in the gui again until it gets updated to  
>>> handle more peers.
>>>
>>> That's why I love pfSense, if the GUI doesn't support it, I can 
>>> still make it work.
>>>
>>> I only need one peer for now.  The only reason it needs to speak BGP 
>>> is so I can announce a subset of our ARIN space to the transit provider.
>>>
>>> I've been tempted to just pkg_add quagga.  But my long term goal is 
>>> to not be the only guy here who can manage the network.
>>>
>>>        I love PFSENSE -  Chris has done an awesome job on that project.
>>>          Durn tootin'.  Chris and that other Scott, and Ermal and . . .
>>>
>>> --
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