Everyone is thinking it.

Hint: take the card out before pulling warranty.

On 4/16/10, Brad Belton <b...@belwave.com> wrote:
> Void the Imagestream warranty for putting the exact same card Imagestream
> installs is pretty chickenshit IMO.
>
> Sorry, you caught me at a bad time this morning...
>
>
> Brad
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick
> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 7:01 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)
>
> Hi All,
>
> I do not recommend this if your router is still under warranty/support.
> Adding 3rd party hardware to the box will void whatever is left.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ImageStream
> 800-813-5123 x106     (US/Can)
> +1 574-935-8484 x106  (Int'l)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:24 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)
>
> You just saved many people hundreds or thousands :)
>
> On 4/15/10, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote:
>> Yup... that's the one.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> Maybe this one?
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833106036
>>>
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>>> --- Winston Churchill
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Tom Sharples <tsharp...@qorvus.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks guys!
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  From: Travis Johnson
>>>>  To: Tom Sharples ; WISPA General List
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 7:57 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Imagestream (was Vyatta?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  We installed several Intel Gigabit cards in our old Imagestream and
>>>> they worked great. They were the $40 Intel desktop cards.
>>>>
>>>>  Travis
>>>>  Microserv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Tom Sharples wrote:
>>>> Just received the imagestream gateway router (vintage 2006 or so) ,
>>>> unfortunately it's equipped with 4-port T1/E1 cards, not ethernet
>>>> cards (sigh). Does anyone know if these will work with standard
>>>> (e.g. 3com, intel,
>>>> whatever) 10/100 ethernet adaptors, or do we have to use a
>>>> proprietary card?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tom S.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 12:19 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, for that many NIC included, you got a steal.
>>>> A single 4port Intel oem Gig card PCI-e costs $430 new.
>>>>
>>>> (Actually that is probably not true, cause its probably an older
>>>> model that doesn't have PCI-E nic cards.)
>>>>
>>>> Tom DeReggi
>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom Sharples" <tsharp...@qorvus.com>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 2:10 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I picked up the Gateway model, equipped with nine 4-port ethernet
>>>> expansion boards, for $625 on Ebay. Seems like a good deal altho I
>>>> don't know what this model costs new with the added ports. Way more
>>>> than we really need.
>>>> I'm
>>>> looking forward to trying it out tho.
>>>>
>>>> Tom S.
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Vyatta?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Call support and they can fix your ImageStream issues.  Need to push
>>>> a little bit and use the phone.  To this day I've not had a response
>>>> to my emails without a phone call.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/6/10, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org> wrote:
>>>>  On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 11:37:54PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>    I really think you'll love ImageStream...
>>>>      I don't mind the three living ImageStream TransPort routers we
>>>> inherited.  Once I changed the editor to default to vi, I was pretty
>>>> happy.
>>>>
>>>> I am not much of a fan of the interface configuration, though it is
>>>> currently more flexible and transparent than pfSense for multiple
>>>> subnets on the same interface.  The shellcmd plugin lets me have a
>>>> GUI to get around the current inadaquacy of the interface
>>>> configuration GUI of pfSense 1.2.3.
>>>>
>>>> I do find that I will make a change to the default route on the
>>>> Interface Configuration file; it will reload sand; and I will have
>>>> to go to bash and route delete default, route add default gateway
>>>> newip manually.  Or, I will put a new subnet on an interface and
>>>> can't get OSPFd to talk on that interface until I reboot the box.
>>>>
>>>> Just stopping and starting OSPFd didn't work.  I don't know if that
>>>> is an indication that I have bad hardware or what.  Using suspect
>>>> gear for your first experience with a platform is probably not the
>>>> best situation for figuring out what is what.  The other 4 inherited
>>>> TransPorts all have one or more blown ethernet ports so I haven't
>>>> been able to use them.  I can't point to anything on the other three
>>>> that screams "I'm busted."
>>>>
>>>> Having to reboot is really annoying.  Having to use the shell to
>>>> manually apply desired configuration changes, annoying, but at least
>>>> they give me the tools to do it. :-) I like flexibility.
>>>>
>>>> The biggest problem I have with going whole hog for the ImageStreams
>>>> is, it would take me much longer to train guys to run the
>>>> ImageStreams than it will take to train them to run pfSense.  The
>>>> secondary problem is cost :
>>>>
>>>> pfSense on Alix:          $204         3 eth
>>>> pfSense on soekris:       $275-350     4 eth
>>>>
>>>> ImageStream on TransPort: $900 new     4 eth
>>>>                          $600 e-bay.  3 eth
>>>>
>>>> We only do about 20 to 30 Mbps where I will have these deployed.
>>>> More horsepower would be wasted.  The BGP running pfSense box is a
>>>> bit beefier than the Alix boxes, but didn't quite cost as much as a
>>>> new TransPort.
>>>>
>>>>    On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:34 PM, Scott Lambert
>>>> <lamb...@lambertfam.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      On Mon, Apr 05, 2010 at 07:52:41PM -0400, Glenn Kelley wrote:
>>>>        Scott
>>>>
>>>> One limitation currently with BGP is you cannot have more than 1
>>>> peer.
>>>> I am awaiting that fix myself.
>>>>          In the GUI anyway.
>>>>
>>>> 1. mount -u -w /
>>>>
>>>> 2. vi config file
>>>>
>>>> 3. Don't change the config in the gui again until it gets updated to
>>>> handle more peers.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I love pfSense, if the GUI doesn't support it, I can
>>>> still make it work.
>>>>
>>>> I only need one peer for now.  The only reason it needs to speak BGP
>>>> is so I can announce a subset of our ARIN space to the transit provider.
>>>>
>>>> I've been tempted to just pkg_add quagga.  But my long term goal is
>>>> to not be the only guy here who can manage the network.
>>>>
>>>>        I love PFSENSE -  Chris has done an awesome job on that project.
>>>>          Durn tootin'.  Chris and that other Scott, and Ermal and . . .
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Scott Lambert                    KC5MLE                       Unix
>>>> SysAdmin
>>>> lamb...@lambertfam.org
>>>>
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