Now there's a vision i could have lived with out. LOL Josh Luthman wrote: > I like that idea way more then living comfortably. Sitting at home on the > couch naked eating Cheetos provides minimal benefit to society. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> wrote: > > >> Yes, it depends on what you put in. >> >> Remember that unemployment is generally what you put in, to a point. The >> extensions that the feds put out are actually loans to your state that get >> paid back via unemployment taxes that you pay later. >> >> The system works as a basic safety net. I don't mind it.. I just sweat when >> I am on it. >> >> ryan >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Josh Luthman >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >> >> >>> Unemployment is dependent on your previous job from what I understand. >>> >> He >> >>> was in the Marines. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> >> continue >> >>> that counts.” >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> How much is unemployment in OH? >>>> >>>> I max out here at 33% of my "normal" salary. I tell you I sweat and >>>> >> sweat >> >>>> trying to pick up my next gig. >>>> >>>> ryan >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Josh Luthman >>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> My roommate is on unemployment. How do you feel "it sucks"? >>>>> >>>>> He goes to school ~12 hours a week and gets paid more then I take for >>>>> salary >>>>> with tuition paid. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>> >>>> continue >>>> >>>>> that counts.” >>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:05 AM, Ryan Spott <rsp...@cspott.com> >>>>> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> Obviously you have never been on unemployment. >>>>>> >>>>>> It sucks. >>>>>> >>>>>> ryan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < >>>>>> >> k...@wavelinc.com> >> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I heard that un-employment benefits recently got extended to 100 >>>>>>> >>>>>> weeks.... >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's give the masses' more reason to not go find a job. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>> WAVELINC >>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>>> 419-562-6405 >>>>>>> www.wavelinc.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: >>>>>>> >>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> >>>>> On >>>>> >>>>>>> Behalf Of RickG >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:33 PM >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was >>>>>>> >>>>> dated! >>>>> >>>>>>> Just come help with the "family business" and I'll make sure you >>>>>>> >>> eat, >>> >>>>>>> have a place to sleep, & get a percentage of the profits :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What would my allowance be with no chores? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another big thing...I never got an allowance. I worked for my >>>>>>>> >>>> money >>>> >>>>>>>> (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> IMO it's crap. Giving a child money to do what is expected >>>>>>>> >> (help >> >>>>>>>> cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense. Both >>>>>>>> >> my >> >>>>>>>> parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn >>>>>>>> >>> food >>> >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>>>>> a bed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/19/10, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can I adopt you? :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal >>>>>>>>>> >>> point >>> >>>>> of >>>>> >>>>>>> view. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> things). >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around >>>>>>>>>> >> them >> >>>>> more >>>>> >>>>>>> then >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank >>>>>>>>>> >>> until >>> >>>> I >>>> >>>>>>>>>> was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. >>>>>>>>>> >>> My >>> >>>>>> first >>>>>> >>>>>>> job >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, >>>>>>>>>> >>> the >>> >>>>>> people >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> around me and the things I have. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One >>>>>>>>>> >>> of >>> >>>>> them >>>>> >>>>>>> gets >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc. A friend >>>>>>>>>> >> I >> >>>> had >>>> >>>>> in >>>>> >>>>>>> high >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> school was in the same position. I know where that person's >>>>>>>>>> >>> life >>> >>>>>>> stands >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we >>>>>>>>>> >> hoped >> >>>> our >>>> >>>>>>> lives >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> would be at 23 or 24. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just >>>>>>>>>> >>>> providing >>>> >>>>>> you >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> my experiences, my results and my facts. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the >>>>>>>>>> >> courage >> >>> to >>> >>>>>>> continue >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> that counts.” >>>>>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> disagree >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> mistakes, >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids >>>>>>>>>>> >> are >> >>>>>>>>>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that >>>>>>>>>>> >>> may >>> >>>>> hurt >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the >>>>>>>>>>> >> side >> >>> of >>> >>>>>>>>>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trust your kids and they will trust you back. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the >>>>>>>>>>>> >>> courage >>> >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> continue >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that counts.” >>>>>>>>>>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger < >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> pa...@hrec.coop >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> some >> >>>>>>> discussion >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> workshop I was at recently. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> brand >> >>>> that >>>> >>>>>> was >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> intercept >>>>> >>>>>>> all >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sorts of things. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Paul >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> from >>> >>>>>> having >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> having >>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> myspace, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> facebook etc. sites. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> *I* >> >>>> can >>>> >>>>>>> check >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> one >>> >>>>>> that >>>>>> >>>>>>> *I* >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> delete things from. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> internet >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bite them in the butt later. The days of people >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> eventually >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> forgetting >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> a >> >>>>>> hotmail >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> email >>>>>>>>>>>>>> address to get it. He had permission to use neither of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> them. >>>> >>>>>> I >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> finally >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> found out about the myspace account and went in to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> check >> >>>> out >>>> >>>>>> what >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he'd >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying. His trash and sent messages had both been >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> erased >> >>>>>> between >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> got >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the password out of him and when I had time to check on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> it. >>> >>>>> (I >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> know >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> to >> >>>> get >>>> >>>>>> on >>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> for >> >>>> all >>>> >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> deleted >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> information. I explained that I was the father of a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> minor >>> >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no permission to use their site and I wanted to know >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> what >> >>>> was >>>> >>>>>>> being >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> hidden >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> as >> >>>> my >>>> >>>>>>> email >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> address. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> They were very good about contacting me quickly about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> this >>> >>>>>> issue. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> However >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they flatly refused to provide me with any >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> information!!!!! >>> >>>>>> They >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> had >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> NO >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> that >> >>>> the >>>> >>>>>>> child >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> accessing >>> >>>>> the >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> account >>>>>>>>>>>>>> information! "go get it from your teen" is basically >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> what >>> >>>> I >>>> >>>>>> was >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> told. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> control >>> >>>>>> your >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kids >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> days? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>> marlon >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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