Even if it smells really badly at least we won't run out of oil, just 
skim a little off...

On 6/28/2010 2:14 PM, St. Louis Broadband wrote:
> Isn't the cruise in the Gulf?
> ...just sayin'...
>
> ~V~
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 4:06 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?
>
> Chuck,
>
> You wouldn't get any objection from me, are you going on the Wireless
> Cruise this fall?
>
> Forbes
>
> On 6/28/2010 1:57 PM, Chuck Profito wrote:
>    
>> How about a west coast regional 2 or 3 day WISPA cruise????  like SF to LA
>>      
> ,
>    
>> or just Long Beach to Catalina
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 11:44 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> Are you on the Promotion Committee?  These are all important inputs we
>> need when we make decisions, it wasn't the board who decided, they
>> followed the recommendations of the Promotion Committee.  We have no
>> intention of having another summer show, we have learned a lot in this
>> our first show and that's one of them.  You can join at
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/Promotion
>>
>> If you don't have the time that's fine it's a dent in my summer schedule
>> too and I'm not just going for the two days, but no incentive I think
>> not, there is a lot of benefit going to this meeting.  I'm not sure
>> asking what concerns there were was necessary unless to help people who
>> needed help coming but to rehash minority views in a well documented
>> series of surveys, webinars, and question/answer opportunities isn't
>> productive, I hope to see you up front at our next attempt at this
>> ongoing series.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Forbes
>> Promotion Committee Chair
>>
>> On 6/27/2010 9:41 PM, Robert West wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> " We originally picked St. Louis"
>>>
>>> With total and absolute respect for the board, we had an online
>>>        
> discussion
>    
>>> of where and why among all of us and St. Louis really wasn't in the mix.
>>> The timing is also "weird" because the summer, at least for me, is the
>>> busiest because the weather is damn best for fixing everything and
>>>        
> getting
>    
>>> new AP's installed.  I'm working like hell to beat the snow.  (Just got
>>>        
> in
>    
>>> from a new AP install)
>>>
>>> Get me in mid-January and I'll have plenty of time.  Look at the volume
>>>        
> of
>    
>>> list postings and you'll understand.  The winter gives us all lots of
>>>        
> time
>    
>>> to list post thus empty time in our schedules.  Graph it out, you'll
>>> understand.  Yeah, travel in the winter sucks.............  But I got's
>>>
>>>        
>> the
>>
>>      
>>> time then!
>>>
>>> Besides...............  St. Louis?
>>>
>>> I went to the Dayton Hamvention, met some WISPA members, saw some great
>>> "junk" and spent some cash.  Not to push Dayton (Dayton blows)  but as we
>>> talked about before, a hook up with another similar event is the cool
>>>
>>>        
>> thing
>>
>>      
>>> for me.  No matter where it is.  I really don't care where but the
>>> Hamvention is well known by a lot of WISPA Hams.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, just no time and no incentive in going.  Ticket price and hotel
>>> price have no bearing on my lack of attending.
>>>
>>> Anyone with similar issues???
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Rick Harnish
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 3:28 PM
>>> To: memb...@wispa.org; 'WISPA General List'
>>> Subject: [WISPA] What are the Challenges?
>>>
>>> Members and WISP followers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We would like to better understand some of the challenges that many of
>>>        
> you
>    
>>> face on a daily basis as we continue to fine tune the Regional Meeting
>>> Agenda.  As you know the 1st Regional Meeting is scheduled for July 21st
>>>
>>>        
>> and
>>
>>      
>>> 22nd in St. Louis. We have been pleasantly surprised at the response we
>>>
>>>        
>> have
>>
>>      
>>> received from vendors in our industry in committing to exhibit at our
>>> Regional Meeting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One thing we have noticed during the signup period is that many WISPs
>>>        
> that
>    
>>> are attending are traveling long distances to come to St. Louis in the
>>>
>>>        
>> first
>>
>>      
>>> stages of signup.  We originally picked St. Louis because of its central
>>> location in the US and because there are a tremendous amount of WISP
>>> companies throughout the Central US.  We really anticipated that 70% of
>>>
>>>        
>> our
>>
>>      
>>> attendees at this meeting would come from a 500 mile radius from St.
>>>
>>>        
>> Louis.
>>
>>      
>>> This does not seem to be the case and we find ourselves wondering why
>>>        
> this
>    
>>> to be the case.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My first inclination is to blame it on weather.  I realize that weather
>>>        
> in
>    
>>> the Central US has been extremely volatile this summer with persistent
>>> storms continually moving across the region.  I am asking if this is
>>>
>>>        
>> really
>>
>>      
>>> the reason preventing many Midwestern WISPs from signing up for this
>>>
>>>        
>> meeting
>>
>>      
>>> or not.  If it is something else, I would like to investigate further.
>>>        
> We
>    
>>> believe it is our obligation to the Vendors who have committed staff,
>>>
>>>        
>> money
>>
>>      
>>> and resources to attend the meeting, that we ask these tough questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our goal and the budget for the RM are based on a count of 200 attendees.
>>>
>>>        
>> We
>>
>>      
>>> are pretty sure we will reach this goal but if we are not going to get
>>> there, we need to start preparing now.  As you may or may not know, we do
>>> have a price increase of $50 per attendee beginning on July 1st.  It
>>>        
> would
>    
>>> be silly of me not to point this out to any prospective attendees.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This week, we were able to negotiate a much nicer hotel and meeting
>>> facilities at the Renaissance Hotel in St. Louis.  The Renaissance
>>>
>>>        
>> actually
>>
>>      
>>> lowered its room rate surprisingly to $79 per night and threw in free
>>> internet, parking and shuttle.  These concessions are saving our
>>> participants nearly $60 from the previous hotel.  The catering and AV
>>> budgets alone exceed the registration fees we are charging for members.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Therefore, I ask that everyone describe your intentions for attending or
>>>
>>>        
>> not
>>
>>      
>>> intending and send a brief description why.  If it is summer vacation,
>>>
>>>        
>> that
>>
>>      
>>> is fine, that is a risk we took when choosing these dates.  If it is
>>>
>>>        
>> summer
>>
>>      
>>> activities such as 4H fairs, baseball tournaments, or whatever, just let
>>>
>>>        
>> me
>>
>>      
>>> know.  If it is the weather and damage has not allowed you to book
>>>        
> because
>    
>>> of excessive repair bills, that is also fine.  I am just trying to get a
>>> feel on the pulse of the industry as we analyze the success of this
>>>
>>>        
>> meeting
>>
>>      
>>> and possibly plan the next one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If there are other challenges you wish to discuss, let me know.  I would
>>> rather the Board be aware so that we can formulate policy and programs to
>>> alleviate these concerns as we move forward.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick Harnish
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> WISPA
>>>
>>> 260-307-4000 cell
>>>
>>> 866-317-2851 WISPA Office
>>>
>>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>>
>>> rharn...@wispa.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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