Something like these:  http://www.pondaeration.com/

Thiesens here in Iowa sells them.  They look like an old fashioned windmill
and just pump water.

There are some wind power kits that you mount on a monopole, but the blades
are so long they would be in the Fresnel zone, and would be hard to climb.

I was merely offering a solution or idea that even owlers and tree huggers
would have no problem having in their neighborhood.

Friendly Regards,
 
Mike
 -----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

At 7/19/2010 05:53 PM, you wrote:
>Fred:
>
>I have some "poles" on my network.  They are hard to climb and service
would
>be the only caveats I'd share.  Consider windmills.  The ones they sell to
>keep ponds aerated are aesthetically pleasing and not too expensive.

You're right; we'll probably need a bucket truck to do poles, both to 
install and service. Are you talking about using wind for power 
too?  There are few or no local windmills  otherwise.  Some of the 
best relay sites may be off the grid so a wind charger could be 
practical.  Solar might work but lake-effect snow could be a 
problem.  Lake-effect wind, on the other hand, would be helpful.

>Friendly Regards,
>
>Mike
>
>Mike Gilchrist
>Disruptive Technologist
>Advanced Wireless Express
>P.O. Box 255
>Toledo, IA   52342
>239.770.6203
>m...@aweiowa.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>Behalf Of Fred R. Goldstein
>Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:24 PM
>To: WISPA General List
>Subject: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations
>
>A design I'm working on is in a hilly wooded rural/resort area, not
>farmland.  It will need a fair number (perhaps a few dozen) sites to
>cover the planned turf.  Each node will need both backhaul (mesh, in
>the loose sense) and access antennas.  The obvious place to put these
>is atop utility poles.  I think the local electric cooperative will
>cooperate and let us rent pole space.  We may however need to put
>additional poles in some places.  They seem cheaper than metal towers
>and are less likely to raise the locals' eyebrows.
>
>Does anyone out there have experience with this sort of
>arrangement?  We're in the budgeting stage now.  I have an idea what
>the radios cost but the installation might be the bigger deal.  The
>big engineering firms are more used to fancy cellular and fiber
>installs, not WISP-style radios.  So we may also want to bring in
>someone with this kind of WISP experience to do some consulting or
>setup with us too.  Thanks.
>
>   --
>   Fred Goldstein    k1io   fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
>   ionary Consulting              http://www.ionary.com/
>   +1 617 795 2701
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